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Jim Watkins's avatar

LOL

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Jenny Joy's avatar

Love it!!!!

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Kerry Lawson's avatar

Excellent metaphor, and only humorous because it is true!

I donate blood every 60 days here in the USA, and fight my way thru a 52-page questionnaire about my health - excellent, my diseases - none, my sexual habits -monogamous and boring, and whether I have received any COVID-19 injections. And if so which ones and when. The other choice is “never injected” which I choose. They also inquire about recent exposures to COVID-19 and recent symptoms and my answer has always been never.

Back in 2020 I thought donating convalescent plasma was a worthwhile idea so I volunteered for that and they tested me for antibodies every 60 days during my normal donation of whole blood and I always tested negative.

Without becoming a lab rat in a cage to be poked and prodded by mad scientists I would like to understand how my immune system has protected me these last three years from catching anything, even a cold.

I've paid for antibody testing at a medical laboratory out of my own pocket six times, all negative.

After two years and eight months of documented negative blood serum COVID antibody testing I am ready to continue to donate documented "safe blood" and "clean blood" every 60 days.

THEY already know who I am and where I live. I imagine they are already setting my donation aside.

My blood is already marked tested and "safe and clean" from a documented frequent blood donor so I believe that there is an opportunity in their chain of handling from donor to end user that might facilitate routing "the good stuff" my blood, to their more select favored clients. It's a small club and no one I know is in it but, I do believe it exists. But I will continue donating even though I believe that it is unfair, unethical, and immoral for some to steal what they want from some child that may be in greater need. Just like a Vampire.

Jaime I like your vampire metaphor and will shamelessly steal it and use it as my own.

Seriously though, there is a group out of Switzerland that is attempting to organize a "safe blood" registry, more of a matchmaking service than a blood bank. You post your willingness to donate, your type, and your state/location and jump back. There are currently just over 500 registered "safe blood" donors in Florida for instance, with 20 million residents.

I can say no to any adult, but would not be able to easily turn down a small child's need for "safe blood". But what would one do if one received 100 requests? 1,000?

I stopped my application process in "safe blood" and have been thinking about how to deal with the kind of pleading email with "photos included" of infants and children like the "baby Alex" case.

“Please help us Type O+ you are the only one.” My baby will die if you do not help us.

We can whistle past a graveyard but can we whistle past a graveyard metaphor?

I get email from The Red Cross thanking me for saving 3 lives with every donation, I suppose they stretch the pints donated to meet their needs as current statistics indicate they have only one- or two-days’ supply on hand here in Florida.

"Vampires all the way down" is a humorous expression of the problem of infinite regress. Not as funny as Jaime Jessop's metaphor but appropriate.

Of course, all the previous homily is mostly hypothetical and just a story I heard from a friend, who is currently in hiding in an unnamed location.

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Jaime Jessop's avatar

LOL. Thanks for the long, interesting comment. Peter McCullough has a post today which argues that an unvaccinated blood bank would be impractical and unattainable. I can't comment, but I am sure that the demand for blood not contaminated by artificial mRNA or spike protein products is going to remain very high, especially for young children who have not been injected, whose responsible parents wish to keep it that way.

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Kerry Lawson's avatar

"Peter McCullough has a post today which argues that an unvaccinated blood bank would be impractical and unattainable"... poor choice of metaphor

He called it "Mission Impossible" forgetting that they always fought thru to the end and accomplished their mission.

and to quote Churchill, "...this is the lesson: never give in, never give in, never, never, never, never-in nothing, great or small, large or petty — never give in except to convictions of honour and..." ..

I admire and respect Dr. McCullough, but dislike the concept of "one size fits all..." everyone must be equally served or no one receives service...

Or safe pure blood in this case.

I myself am struggling with who gets the pure blood, friends and family first of course, but I've donated 28 pints of blood since 2018 and not one of my friends or family has needed any blood. Not one pint.

Any ideas Jamie?

Kerry

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Jenny Joy's avatar

This is a fascinating discussion/topic. I was disappointed by the suggestion that establishing a blood bank of un-jabbed (purebloods if we want to use that term, as good as any) is not practical when I read Peter McCullough's post. I'd heard about the group in Switzerland, personally I think it's a good idea but of course I have no way to assess if it's practical or do-able. When I was younger I used to donate regularly but for about one year (2014-2015) I did lab work with primates and now I can never donate again, at least according to the rules of my area. Too bad, because as a pureblood I am sure my blood would be wanted/useful.

Love the Churchill quotation!

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Kerry Lawson's avatar

Exactly! Your blood would be wanted by someone as a choice... Free Will anyone?

Body and Soul, Mind and Will, we have the gift of choice, in all things.

I am not sure about your area and your rules, but in Florida they have never questioned me about "lab work with primates..." as long as you can answer NO to the other 52 pages of questions they will want your blood.

And I often wonder, as I watch the needle pierce my flesh, and my blood flow thru the tube, wouldn't someone want the gift of life even if the donor were not healthy or pure?

All any of us have is one more breath, one more minute, perhaps one more day.

We now have rulers and leaders who though imperfect in every way demand perfection from us.

"to improve is to change, so to be perfect is to change often" Churchill again

Our white blood cells only live for 3 or 4 days, our red blood cells for 3 or 4 months so our bodies have to be healthy in nearly all ways before we can donate frequently. We have to continuously regenerate these cells anyway or our bodies die, so with a gift that costs only days or weeks of effort by a healthy body we give the gift of life to someone else.

Yeah, I'm working on my recruitment sales pitch, I almost have 2 or 3 friends talked into donating blood with me the next time I go. The blood donor centers I visit have rows of empty chairs, the fear of COVID I am told.

First rule of donating blood, if you are afraid of needles keep your eyes open! Look at something else... Only close your eyes when you are going to kiss a pretty girl!

Recite a famous quote in your head, engage your brain and distract yourself from the event... the pain... "It was the best of times, It was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness,..." a quote from Dickens that I use to get me to the finish line after a long run.

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Jenny Joy's avatar

Well said.

In particular - "And I often wonder, as I watch the needle pierce my flesh, and my blood flow thru the tube, wouldn't someone want the gift of life even if the donor were not healthy or pure?"

Personally I have never been either seriously ill or seriously injured, but if you or someone you love is, and it becomes a matter of immediate-life-or-death, either there is a blood to get through the next minute and the minute after that or there isn't... anyone would choose to have blood that is 'less than pure'. I have a friend who also was in the habit of regularly giving blood in his younger years, but then when Mad Cow happened in the UK, Quebec decided no one who had ever been in the UK during that period of time could Ever give blood again, and since that was the case for him... no more blood donations. Quebec (and most of Canada) is just an insanely stupid place in many ways, sadly. You are in Florida..? If I could move anywhere right now, or these past few years, it would be there.

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Kerry Lawson's avatar

Florida is everything you ever dreamed about and more. You might find peace in Florida.

On any given day you will meet people from nearly every other state and many countries from around the world. The people are the kind who were unhappy back home or perhaps just curious about what a sunrise looked like from half-way around the world. Now I can run and train on the beach on almost any day of the year. Freedom from bad weather. Watch the the news this Christmas as "Global Warming" brings the coldest weather in many years to the great white north. I'll be on the beach on Christmas Day in my running shoes, shorts and tee shirt.

We are below the 30th parallel and will probably be the warmest place in the 48 continental states.

Merry Christmas

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Jaime Jessop's avatar

It seems uncharacteristic of Peter to resign himself to this position. Enough people are unjabbed in my opinion to set up viable uncontaminated blood supplies. He has said time and again that it is not known how long the mRNA and spike proteins stay in the blood and organs, so suggesting that as a compromise, the vaccinated only donate blood a few months at least after getting injected seems a bit lame.

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Kerry Lawson's avatar

The Swiss paradigm is to just play matchmaker, to organize a registry where a person in need directly contacts someone who has registered as a donor.

Drat, that triggered another memory.. "Matchmaker, Matchmaker find me a match, look through your book, ..."

Yeah, "Fiddler on the Roof" the metaphor is valid except that the Swiss people bear no responsibility for the suitability of the match.

Are we waiting for a Darwin quote? OK, "...survival of the fittest..."

Not the strongest, not the smartest, not the most moral, nor the truest, but a battle between the politicians and the poets.

If it were only between the scientists and the poets.

I have to get back to work,

Jamie, you ask the most provocative questions.

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Kitsune, Maskless Crusader.'s avatar

You mean the clot shot is good for something after all?

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Jaime Jessop's avatar

The superstitious believed that masks protected them, that Covid tests proved they were sick, that walking one way along a supermarket aisle could scare off a virus, so it's only right and proper that the vaccinated should believe they are now protected from vampires in addition to a nasty cold virus. :)

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Kitsune, Maskless Crusader.'s avatar

Doh! Well played. LOL.

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Gary Sharpe's avatar

There may truth to this - the aging elites are apparently fond of transfusion of young blood because they think it will extend their lives... I doubt they will want the blood from those they have contaminated...

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Jaime Jessop's avatar

Soros is definitely a vampire. Nobody could look that old and still be alive.

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Katherine's avatar

What a terrific piece of writing, offering humor in these dark times.

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Gordon Linton's avatar

Exactly the dark humour conversation I have with my buddy. We figure that whilst we will be targeting the zombies, the vampires will be targeting us.

We are developing a plan......

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Jaime Jessop's avatar

You've gotta laugh, otherwise you'll cry.

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