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David Walker's avatar

Meanwhile, in China and India...

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Hitchhiker007's avatar

Really? Is that the best kick back you can do.and where are all those cheap goods you like to buy produced? We live on a sphere, all connected.

The first paper ever written on the effects of burning fossil fuels, coal at that time was 1824. (You might like to read a biography of J P Morgan.) A lot of that CO2 is still in the atmosphere buggering the planets attempt to stabilise it's climate.

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David Walker's avatar

" A lot of that CO2 is still in the atmosphere buggering the planets attempt to stabilise it's climate."

No it isn't.

https://web.viu.ca/krogh/chem302/residence%20time%20of%20atmos%20gases%20Table%202.1%20Hobbs.pdf

And it's "its", not "it's".

Oh, and if you're that bothered, why are you using a computer on the Internet to propagate your scientifically illiterate nonsense?

Hypocritical or what!

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Douglas Brodie's avatar

The AR4 UN IPCC report in 2007 asserted that "Most of the observed increase in global average temperatures since the mid-20th century is very likely [90 percent confidence] due to the observed increase in anthropogenic greenhouse gas concentrations”.

That was nonsense of course because they cheat by only considering alleged man-made influences on the climate, not climate natural variability in the round.

They took the figure from 1950 because they themselves used to consider the level of atmospheric CO2 before 1950 to be too low to cause any global warming, not that it does even at the current level as various experts such as William Happer have proved.

In their desperation at the near flatlining of global temperature for the last 25 years (as shown in Jaime's graph), the climate catastrophists have now abandoned the 1950 CO2 threshold level and brazenly lie that all the warming since 1850 has been caused by man-made CO2 emissions.

It’s so sad that so many of the general public can’t see through these blatant lies.

The Daily Sceptic’s Environment Editor did a good takedown of the latest 1.5 degrees scare here: https://dailysceptic.org/2023/05/19/1-5c-temperature-disaster-story-makes-its-annual-media-appearance/.

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Jo Waller's avatar

Fires , storms , crazy weather and the end of humanity make great images and copy. The promotion of negative emotion and fear has as much to do with how the media works and makes money as a plan to control us I think.

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Kerry Lawson's avatar

Wow, who to believe? They always tell lies and Jamie Jessop always tells the truth so I stand with Jamie.

Unfortunately, "they" have learned that 70% of the population can easily be manipulated by scary words and childish stories.

We are all in this boat together. We are on a journey that will not end well for most people as the living conditions in the 17th century were not pleasant. While they screech and scream and demand that we end civilization to placate their pagan earth gods most would not enjoy a primitive agricultural lifestyle.

How about a hunter gatherer lifestyle? Would they hunt and kill wild animals for food? Would they plant crops and guard their harvest against predators by killing anyone or anything that tried to take them? Could they fast over the winter and refrain from eating “the seed corn”? Must save that for the spring planting and fast or starve until then. Could they raid another tribe or family and kill them all for their food?

I see the word “kill” numerous times in that little rant of mine only because I am a student of history and pre-history and most of it was written in blood.

They now live in a world of electronic dreams with push button temperature control and surround themselves with just in time food delivery at their supermarkets. Microwave ovens, refrigerator freezer combos that already use their new idol, Artificial Inelegance, (AI) and they do not even know it.

Stop the ships, stop the trucks, stop the electracy and some wags claim we will see cannibalism in 3 days. But somehow the foolish childish fearful class continues to believe that they will eat and not be eaten.

A philosopher once stated that “Meritocracy… or idiotic, retarded Woke ideology…” J. Jessop

The choice was unstated but inferred and obvious.

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Jaime Jessop's avatar

Our history is indeed written in blood - and the changing climate. When it gets warmer, we thrive and there is less bloodshed. When it gets colder, we struggle to survive and there is more bloodshed. The Vikings thrived in Greenland during the Medieval Warm Period, which was as warm, if not warmer than today. The bloody raids in England became less common and ceased altogether during the Medieval Warm Period. Now we have warmth and abundance, the anti-life, anti-carbon Net Zero fanatics want to throw it all away and return us to the bloody and violent Dark Ages.

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Jo Waller's avatar

We get in Jaime, but Big Bad Weather and co2, just like 'AIDs' and 'HIV', is being used to mask the real problems of pollution, overfished oceans, factory farming, loss of pollinators, poverty, malnutrition, GMO and pesticides, soil fertility, drug pushing etc etc

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