Was it a freak of nature or the unmistakable signature of a beam of energy being directed from earth orbit? Neither I suggest. Wild grass fires form all sorts of geometrical shapes and patterns and it is entirely possible that grass could burn in a near perfect geometric oval or circle, especially if a burning ember falls on an area of dry grass and the fire burns outwards, quickly, in all directions from that central point. There’s nothing mysterious about this. What’s mysterious is how people will leap to extremely implausible and outlandish explanations for essentially mundane observations. Here’s a photo of a ring of fire taken randomly from stock photos of grassfires online.
That night aerial view of island fires, the one with the incriminating “oval of fire”labeled “Lahaina”, can be dismissed without even addressing the scare claim.
It Is not West Maui. I have no idea where it actually is, or rather, was. But it pictures the supposed “Lahaina” fire (with the oval) with other fires on the opposite side. No such fires happened relative to the town of Lahaina. (Although other fires did occur — they were over on the Islands SE side, Upcountry, and above Kihei.)
But even more telling is the coastline, the geography, the roads and the shape of the entire West side of the island of Maui, which it purport to show. It’s all wrong.
I invite you to examine it against a map or Google earth and look closely, account for perspective, and compare it to the video. It’s some other place, some other time.
If there is a conspiracy, our suspicions, scrutiny and skepticism must be played equally on all sides. We’re sure to get more Ghost of Kiev moments.
The Criminal Insanity of Climate Change: Direct Energy Weapons (DEW) Create Forest and Brush Fires, Destroying Entire Cities and Ignite Boats in the Sea.
Yes, agree that the temps naturally fluctuate and Catastrophic Global Warming is a hoax and a psyop. And I know that the weapons mentioned have been around for some time.
But this piece then goes on to present as as a given what is merely a possibility.
Those assertions involving the Lahaina Fire & the island are in need of correction and incendiary in themselves. The presentations of proof don’t prove anything , yet they reassert it as if it does. The climate data and asessment part gets an “A” and the part about geo & energy weps are a mixed bag.
But it goes downhill from there. I mainly want to critique his take and sources — mainly video — on the Maui Lahaina fire. And address his proof by assertion that it was not natural, but was orchestrated, and that the aforementioned weapons were used to do it. This, I would say, is an assumption, not a conclusion.
Some facts correcting statements in the piece and then a response.
“This [the DEWs and weather manipulation weapons] is how the beautiful Hawaiian island, Maui, and her major city Lahaina was destroyed..”
First, Lahaina is not a major city of Maui as was stated (for impact, no doubt). It’s a town (albeit a very special town), referred to as “Lahainatown” to distinguish it from the larger area of Lahaina, the postal and regional area of West Maui which extends up along the shoreline to the north; Kahului is the major city of Maui. (See map)
West Maui is isolated from the larger, much more populated part of the island to the SE, and it’s reached only by a long, single-lane highway winding along the shore. Nothing much is there except beautiful scenery until you hit the outskirts of Lahainatown, which was the hub for west Maui only. It was also a tourist draw with a unique history and was home to the people who are now displaced and hoping to determine their own destiny.
—Second, although many dufus reporters attributed to the hurricane the intense winds, you can go back and find Aug 6 Honolulu news reports warning of extreme high winds and fire danger. They accurately attributed these mainly to the large North Pacific High system — a permanent system fluctuating in size and latitude. (You can read about this system too and also check the local weather history. ). The Low pressure from the relatively remote hurricane interacted with the more important NPH system. They explained this.
— The Jaco vid was sheer nonsense. It sure would be a waste of time and energy to zap everything using those DEWs and HAARPs when nature can handle the job all by herself. Jaco’s ignorance of how winds & fires behave in the normal world is astonishing. What he showed as DEW-caused is what fires do — all the time, given those conditions. Fires do that! His lack of logic is jaw dropping. He makes outrageous claims (like the plastic light on the burned police car are intact) and we think he’s going to then show us. But no! Just says see? (it’s DEW!) & He moves on to show us what we always see after any bad fire — skipped areas, cars, buildings, even swaths of dry grass. Yes. Fires do that. They make their own intense and unusual winds, driven by fuel, heat and winds. (But DEW!!).
And ash is not any old common ash like in my fireplace — its dust. From DEW!!! Don’t question him he just knows. Other explanations? Like for the fresh white panel truck parked there that likely arrived AFTER the fire? He mentions that obvious probability, but that wouldn’t fit his narrative (DEW! Evidence!) So he waves it aside. As an aside, I liked the way he called shrubs and trees “foilage”. This guy is super smart.
And the video following is as bad, minus the foilage. And it’s more of the same logical fallacies and drivel.
For the past week I've watched people clamoring for the wildest of explanations, and realized the the danger and utility, the increasingly sharp double edged sword of instantaneously available information through the internet.
I kept reading about "perfect circles", "near perfect eclipses", and all the finger pointing from dark corners of a million imaginations, none if whom have any practical fire behavior experience.
Not having the time to track down the images and video they referred to, I couldn't say what I was suspecting. But thanks to your images, my suspicions were correct.
First of all, I believe the night time drone video is of one of the upcountry fires between Kahului and Kihei, or up towards Kula, not Lahaina. Secondly all the images show very normal fire spread patterns. How do I know they look normal? A thirty plus year career fighting these fires, with one of my specialties in the last ten working as a fire behavior analyst, (someone who makes observations and short and long range predictions to assist with strategy and tactics).
I have gleaned that the fire started east of Lahaina on a grass covered slope, near the High School and Middle School. The fire was initially contained (spread was stopped, but hot spots still remained within the interior). As the dry, warm winds picked up in the hours later, the fire spotted (and ember was blown across the containment line, and started a new ignition down wind). Most likely the local fire department had moved on to other incidents and the fire was able to accelerate and spread due to the strong downslope winds. Once the fire impacted a few structures, the firefighters were fighting a losing battle. The Tunnel fire in the Berkley Hills area in CA in 1991 was very similar. I was there the next morning, helping to put out what was left. Thousands of homes were destroyed. 25 people died. This tragedy in Lahaina is very similar. The fire behavior accounts I have read seen and heard are all typical. The wild assumptions though are frustrating to say the least. There will hopefully be many hard lessons learned. But blaming everyone from crazy rich Oprah to the crazy rich military helps no one, especially the people who's lives, futures and families have been forever changed by this tragedy.
Thank you Jamie for trying to reel folks back towards reality.
John, I just reread your post. It’s so good. I wish I’d read this before I responding to the posted link piece just above - in growing frustration.
I’m going to save yours to my notes—I hope that’s all right with you. You’ve said so much so well and yours is a voice much needed now.
(I also wrote today about that night time footage. I’ve been convinced that it isn’t Maui at all. I had considered what you suggested too, but it didn’t make sense. Kula is above Kihei. The lights of Kahului should be clearly seen. I’ll look again, though, because I’ve been thinking about it for awhile now. & you may be right.
Thanks again for this too. I read much the same nonsense you highlight about the California Camp Fire. There too, there were failings on the part of the authorities, in that case, not allowing underbrush to be cleared, but all that was overwhelmed by the claims of energy beams melting this or that.
... but the question is, a PERFECT ring of fire? And this wasn't a field, presumably, but an urban area. Doesn't seem plausible, as one who has seen more than one field fire. Nevertheless, I appreciate this article. Since we no longer have peer reviewed science, as it has been usurped by the fasco-Marxists, article like this are a great forum for debate and alternate peer review. BUT, I think the jury is still out on this, and I REALLY appreciate Jaime pushing back on this, so we can, together, get to the bottom of this.
There is no info on where the film was taken, but I can't see any buildings on the screenshot of the video (which I can't view because the link doesn't work). My best guess is that it was taken outside of town or in an area of scrubland in town. Definitely looks like burning grass and shrubs to me. The ring is also not perfect - note that the fire is more widespread on one side than the other (probably due to the wind).
Well, you are to be heartily commended for this work. Thank you. The key is that we in the alt word need to do peer review, *graciously* questioning one another, so we can get at the truth. I think of the Irish monks who saved civilization 1000 years ago. We are now in the same predicament, with amoral barbarians having most of the terrain. What we do NOT need is this, from the Twilight Zone, the Monsters are Due on Maple Street (7 min), where we tear each other apart while the Deep State laughs in the background. I think you'll find this a great clip!
Only a moron would say that a space-based laser started the fires, its impossible for laser light to pass through the atmosphere, normal lasers ground based travel about 3 miles in the earth atmosphere before they lose all their energy.
So these fires were started by drones or weather-balloons hosting laser up to 3 miles up in the sky
Chinese have 'laser-cannons' handheld that are used to burn bird-nests off of high-tension wires, and they even make a coke-can 3LB 1 megawatt laser that can puncture & ignite an LPG tank from a drone;
That is rather more plausible than a satellite based weapon, but is it the explanation for what started the Lahaina fire (twice, in two neighbouring locations on the slopes above the town)? What evidence is there that high powered lasers were used aboard drones or weather-balloons? It would have to be quite strong evidence for us to discount the rather more plausible ground-based sources of ignition. Would a drone have been able to stay aloft in the strong winds?
U WIN it was "Jewish lightning" ( common arson ), but proof as to WHOM? USGov, Gov Hawaii? Dir of Emerg, there are 1,000's of usual suspects, cui-bono,
IMHO this will have legs like the WTC 911 OP, forever talked about like who killed JFK??? Who destroyed Maui???
...
My comment is that YOU Must exclude space based lasers cuz that is impossible, but cheap drone based lasers are a real thing.
As I already explained, chinese sell on the market coke-can size 1 megawatt lasers that can drill a hole in an LPG take 1-3 miles away and ignite it, the drones can map area for tanks, and then feed the GPS to drones,this is all basic drone tech these days
...
Known-Knowns that like 911, some people were warned to stay out
The entire emergency system for Hawaii had been turned off, so at 6am all the retired people got no wake up call, to get fuck out of dodge
The entire OP smells like "Jewish Lightning"., when the GOV is a kleptocracy ( common criminals run the gov ) arson is just a normal business opportunity
The WEF JEW GOV "GREEN" & his JEW Emerg-DIR are both JEW WEF fellows and had recently signed doc's to de-populate MAUI.
That night aerial view of island fires, the one with the incriminating “oval of fire”labeled “Lahaina”, can be dismissed without even addressing the scare claim.
It Is not West Maui. I have no idea where it actually is, or rather, was. But it pictures the supposed “Lahaina” fire (with the oval) with other fires on the opposite side. No such fires happened relative to the town of Lahaina. (Although other fires did occur — they were over on the Islands SE side, Upcountry, and above Kihei.)
But even more telling is the coastline, the geography, the roads and the shape of the entire West side of the island of Maui, which it purport to show. It’s all wrong.
I invite you to examine it against a map or Google earth and look closely, account for perspective, and compare it to the video. It’s some other place, some other time.
If there is a conspiracy, our suspicions, scrutiny and skepticism must be played equally on all sides. We’re sure to get more Ghost of Kiev moments.
https://youtu.be/XqYE1Pi334I
Lahaina Was Destroyed by a Directed Energy Weapon
https://hendrie.substack.com/p/lahaina-was-destroyed-by-a-directed
Sorry, but that's nuts. Claiming that the buildings were microwaved, which is why trees were not affected. Really? A photo of burned trees in Lahaina.
https://cdn.theatlantic.com/thumbor/Z9cQni3tCvK6R0hxjqtezIp45-I=/1200x800/media/img/photo/2023/08/lahaina/a03_1592922747/original.jpg
theatlantic.com? Of Emily Oster fame?
I don't think that's relevant. The photo is very likely genuine and no doubt many other sources have published photos of burned trees.
The Criminal Insanity of Climate Change: Direct Energy Weapons (DEW) Create Forest and Brush Fires, Destroying Entire Cities and Ignite Boats in the Sea.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/direct-energy-weapons-create-forest-brush-fires
Yes, agree that the temps naturally fluctuate and Catastrophic Global Warming is a hoax and a psyop. And I know that the weapons mentioned have been around for some time.
But this piece then goes on to present as as a given what is merely a possibility.
Those assertions involving the Lahaina Fire & the island are in need of correction and incendiary in themselves. The presentations of proof don’t prove anything , yet they reassert it as if it does. The climate data and asessment part gets an “A” and the part about geo & energy weps are a mixed bag.
But it goes downhill from there. I mainly want to critique his take and sources — mainly video — on the Maui Lahaina fire. And address his proof by assertion that it was not natural, but was orchestrated, and that the aforementioned weapons were used to do it. This, I would say, is an assumption, not a conclusion.
Some facts correcting statements in the piece and then a response.
“This [the DEWs and weather manipulation weapons] is how the beautiful Hawaiian island, Maui, and her major city Lahaina was destroyed..”
First, Lahaina is not a major city of Maui as was stated (for impact, no doubt). It’s a town (albeit a very special town), referred to as “Lahainatown” to distinguish it from the larger area of Lahaina, the postal and regional area of West Maui which extends up along the shoreline to the north; Kahului is the major city of Maui. (See map)
West Maui is isolated from the larger, much more populated part of the island to the SE, and it’s reached only by a long, single-lane highway winding along the shore. Nothing much is there except beautiful scenery until you hit the outskirts of Lahainatown, which was the hub for west Maui only. It was also a tourist draw with a unique history and was home to the people who are now displaced and hoping to determine their own destiny.
—Second, although many dufus reporters attributed to the hurricane the intense winds, you can go back and find Aug 6 Honolulu news reports warning of extreme high winds and fire danger. They accurately attributed these mainly to the large North Pacific High system — a permanent system fluctuating in size and latitude. (You can read about this system too and also check the local weather history. ). The Low pressure from the relatively remote hurricane interacted with the more important NPH system. They explained this.
— The Jaco vid was sheer nonsense. It sure would be a waste of time and energy to zap everything using those DEWs and HAARPs when nature can handle the job all by herself. Jaco’s ignorance of how winds & fires behave in the normal world is astonishing. What he showed as DEW-caused is what fires do — all the time, given those conditions. Fires do that! His lack of logic is jaw dropping. He makes outrageous claims (like the plastic light on the burned police car are intact) and we think he’s going to then show us. But no! Just says see? (it’s DEW!) & He moves on to show us what we always see after any bad fire — skipped areas, cars, buildings, even swaths of dry grass. Yes. Fires do that. They make their own intense and unusual winds, driven by fuel, heat and winds. (But DEW!!).
And ash is not any old common ash like in my fireplace — its dust. From DEW!!! Don’t question him he just knows. Other explanations? Like for the fresh white panel truck parked there that likely arrived AFTER the fire? He mentions that obvious probability, but that wouldn’t fit his narrative (DEW! Evidence!) So he waves it aside. As an aside, I liked the way he called shrubs and trees “foilage”. This guy is super smart.
And the video following is as bad, minus the foilage. And it’s more of the same logical fallacies and drivel.
For the past week I've watched people clamoring for the wildest of explanations, and realized the the danger and utility, the increasingly sharp double edged sword of instantaneously available information through the internet.
I kept reading about "perfect circles", "near perfect eclipses", and all the finger pointing from dark corners of a million imaginations, none if whom have any practical fire behavior experience.
Not having the time to track down the images and video they referred to, I couldn't say what I was suspecting. But thanks to your images, my suspicions were correct.
First of all, I believe the night time drone video is of one of the upcountry fires between Kahului and Kihei, or up towards Kula, not Lahaina. Secondly all the images show very normal fire spread patterns. How do I know they look normal? A thirty plus year career fighting these fires, with one of my specialties in the last ten working as a fire behavior analyst, (someone who makes observations and short and long range predictions to assist with strategy and tactics).
I have gleaned that the fire started east of Lahaina on a grass covered slope, near the High School and Middle School. The fire was initially contained (spread was stopped, but hot spots still remained within the interior). As the dry, warm winds picked up in the hours later, the fire spotted (and ember was blown across the containment line, and started a new ignition down wind). Most likely the local fire department had moved on to other incidents and the fire was able to accelerate and spread due to the strong downslope winds. Once the fire impacted a few structures, the firefighters were fighting a losing battle. The Tunnel fire in the Berkley Hills area in CA in 1991 was very similar. I was there the next morning, helping to put out what was left. Thousands of homes were destroyed. 25 people died. This tragedy in Lahaina is very similar. The fire behavior accounts I have read seen and heard are all typical. The wild assumptions though are frustrating to say the least. There will hopefully be many hard lessons learned. But blaming everyone from crazy rich Oprah to the crazy rich military helps no one, especially the people who's lives, futures and families have been forever changed by this tragedy.
Thank you Jamie for trying to reel folks back towards reality.
John, I just reread your post. It’s so good. I wish I’d read this before I responding to the posted link piece just above - in growing frustration.
I’m going to save yours to my notes—I hope that’s all right with you. You’ve said so much so well and yours is a voice much needed now.
(I also wrote today about that night time footage. I’ve been convinced that it isn’t Maui at all. I had considered what you suggested too, but it didn’t make sense. Kula is above Kihei. The lights of Kahului should be clearly seen. I’ll look again, though, because I’ve been thinking about it for awhile now. & you may be right.
I hope you’ll read my post as well.)
Thanks again for this too. I read much the same nonsense you highlight about the California Camp Fire. There too, there were failings on the part of the authorities, in that case, not allowing underbrush to be cleared, but all that was overwhelmed by the claims of energy beams melting this or that.
... but the question is, a PERFECT ring of fire? And this wasn't a field, presumably, but an urban area. Doesn't seem plausible, as one who has seen more than one field fire. Nevertheless, I appreciate this article. Since we no longer have peer reviewed science, as it has been usurped by the fasco-Marxists, article like this are a great forum for debate and alternate peer review. BUT, I think the jury is still out on this, and I REALLY appreciate Jaime pushing back on this, so we can, together, get to the bottom of this.
There is no info on where the film was taken, but I can't see any buildings on the screenshot of the video (which I can't view because the link doesn't work). My best guess is that it was taken outside of town or in an area of scrubland in town. Definitely looks like burning grass and shrubs to me. The ring is also not perfect - note that the fire is more widespread on one side than the other (probably due to the wind).
I saw the same under different viewing conditions (light, brilliance, contrast or such.) and there are multiple smaller fires within the oval.
Well, you are to be heartily commended for this work. Thank you. The key is that we in the alt word need to do peer review, *graciously* questioning one another, so we can get at the truth. I think of the Irish monks who saved civilization 1000 years ago. We are now in the same predicament, with amoral barbarians having most of the terrain. What we do NOT need is this, from the Twilight Zone, the Monsters are Due on Maple Street (7 min), where we tear each other apart while the Deep State laughs in the background. I think you'll find this a great clip!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3Jey34CxQk&pp=ygUgbW9uc3RlcnMgYXJlIGR1ZSBvbiBtYXBsZSBzdHJlZXQ%3D
Yup. Wildfires develop an updraft that sometimes turns into a 'firenado' but always throws embers high and then wide.
If it seems unfamiliar, just think of a chimney!
Only a moron would say that a space-based laser started the fires, its impossible for laser light to pass through the atmosphere, normal lasers ground based travel about 3 miles in the earth atmosphere before they lose all their energy.
So these fires were started by drones or weather-balloons hosting laser up to 3 miles up in the sky
Chinese have 'laser-cannons' handheld that are used to burn bird-nests off of high-tension wires, and they even make a coke-can 3LB 1 megawatt laser that can puncture & ignite an LPG tank from a drone;
That is rather more plausible than a satellite based weapon, but is it the explanation for what started the Lahaina fire (twice, in two neighbouring locations on the slopes above the town)? What evidence is there that high powered lasers were used aboard drones or weather-balloons? It would have to be quite strong evidence for us to discount the rather more plausible ground-based sources of ignition. Would a drone have been able to stay aloft in the strong winds?
https://youtu.be/XqYE1Pi334I
U WIN it was "Jewish lightning" ( common arson ), but proof as to WHOM? USGov, Gov Hawaii? Dir of Emerg, there are 1,000's of usual suspects, cui-bono,
IMHO this will have legs like the WTC 911 OP, forever talked about like who killed JFK??? Who destroyed Maui???
...
My comment is that YOU Must exclude space based lasers cuz that is impossible, but cheap drone based lasers are a real thing.
As I already explained, chinese sell on the market coke-can size 1 megawatt lasers that can drill a hole in an LPG take 1-3 miles away and ignite it, the drones can map area for tanks, and then feed the GPS to drones,this is all basic drone tech these days
...
Known-Knowns that like 911, some people were warned to stay out
The entire emergency system for Hawaii had been turned off, so at 6am all the retired people got no wake up call, to get fuck out of dodge
The entire OP smells like "Jewish Lightning"., when the GOV is a kleptocracy ( common criminals run the gov ) arson is just a normal business opportunity
The WEF JEW GOV "GREEN" & his JEW Emerg-DIR are both JEW WEF fellows and had recently signed doc's to de-populate MAUI.
Weather engineering comes from the same narcissistic strand as climate change - it's all our fault. Nah
I had not thought of that, but, yes; same coin just different sides.