Gosh, some lucky residents are due to be chosen by our beneficent government as guinea pigs for the rollout of ‘safe and effective’ zero carbon hydrogen boilers.
In case it escaped your notice, gasoline is not pumped into people's houses to power their central heating boilers - natural gas is. So, the correct comparison would be the risk of domestic hydrogen vs. natural gas (methane). Are you telling me that hydrogen is a safer gas to use in domestic boiler settings than methane?
In case you missed it, I wrote that you can produce your own hydrogen in the quantity needed to keep it safe.
I advise you do some more research on the many safe devices already in commerce.
You don’t need tanks to store it, you can just produce what you need to consume, and you can do it on your own.
No pipes or dangerous tanks needed
Ps a small “ natura gas “which is an oxymoron since what you get in the tanks is refined and not natural.” tank explosion, is like bomb which can take out a building, while an hydrogen system can be regulated so that instead of exploding would shot out the exes heat or fire trough a vent.
The storage issue is not related to the safety issue of actually using hydrogen for domestic heating. I asked the question: do you believe that hydrogen is safer than natural gas in the domestic setting? Please answer this simple question.
Well that was quick! After Redcar was announced as a possibility for a hydrogen trial, Claire Coutinho has stated that the proposal is to be scrapped after months of local opposition to the scheme.
I wouldn’t bracket Aberdeen amongst “some of the least affluent and deprived towns in Britain”! There’s lots of money in Aberdeen, not least among the tens of thousands who work offshore in the North Sea oil and gas industry, or at least what’s left of it after the downturn resulting from Jeremy Hunt’s punitive “windfall tax” and the efforts of the SNP and other nutters trying to shut it down completely.
Ha! ‘safe and effective’ reminds me of those other famous last words ‘Et tu, Brute’ and death awaited one betrayed by those who should have been trustworthy.
Correction: there are in fact natural deposits of hydrogen on earth, but they are generally smaller and more difficult to exploit than natural gas and oil deposits:
"Known as natural hydrogen, gold hydrogen or white hydrogen, natural deposits could be an important source.
They are produced in a number of ways but the main process involves the interaction of ground water with iron-rich minerals such as olivine. This causes the water to be split into oxygen, which binds with the iron, and hydrogen.
The French discovery is not the first time that naturally-occurring hydrogen has been found - there's already a small well in Bourakébougou, western Mali, and there are also believed to be large deposits in the US, Australia, Russia and a number of European countries."
Corrected by the BBC. How will I ever live it down!?
Hydrogen makes some sense as a vehicle fuel. Gasoline requires a huge amount of energy-consuming processing work to separate it from crude oil. Hydrogen requires a lot less processing, and its source material is basically infinite. The fuel cell combines hydrogen and oxygen into water, thus recycling most of the source material. At the vehicle, this is much cleaner than either gasoline or lithium batteries.
Hydrogen makes no sense at all for residential or commercial purposes. Electricity from nuclear, or from hydrodams where possible, is the cleanest choice for those uses.
Absolutely.
As I explained, it can be produced in loco without any exes or risk.
The fear of the industry is the very fact that you can produce your own, and run anything on it.
Including your car.
Ho and yes, all you need is water, and the dirty the better.
Matter of fact, you should also research how domestic hydrogen systems turn your sewage water into pure one.
Electrolysis is older than oil and in Switzerland there are villages which use it to power their towns since the 80s
Sol
Stop the bs, Hydrogen is far safer than gasoline.
The first one burns in seconds, the second one can burn for days.
Everybody can produce its own hydrogen in the limited quantity which makes it useful for the application and safe.
But once again bs prevails in a brainwashed world.
In case it escaped your notice, gasoline is not pumped into people's houses to power their central heating boilers - natural gas is. So, the correct comparison would be the risk of domestic hydrogen vs. natural gas (methane). Are you telling me that hydrogen is a safer gas to use in domestic boiler settings than methane?
In case you missed it, I wrote that you can produce your own hydrogen in the quantity needed to keep it safe.
I advise you do some more research on the many safe devices already in commerce.
You don’t need tanks to store it, you can just produce what you need to consume, and you can do it on your own.
No pipes or dangerous tanks needed
Ps a small “ natura gas “which is an oxymoron since what you get in the tanks is refined and not natural.” tank explosion, is like bomb which can take out a building, while an hydrogen system can be regulated so that instead of exploding would shot out the exes heat or fire trough a vent.
But once again research it
The storage issue is not related to the safety issue of actually using hydrogen for domestic heating. I asked the question: do you believe that hydrogen is safer than natural gas in the domestic setting? Please answer this simple question.
Well that was quick! After Redcar was announced as a possibility for a hydrogen trial, Claire Coutinho has stated that the proposal is to be scrapped after months of local opposition to the scheme.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/dec/14/hydrogen-village-plan-in-redcar-abandoned-after-local-oppositiion
Madness, we are heading in to insanity, never heard about this but it does not surprise me, thanks for the heads up. Respect& X 2 All
I wouldn’t bracket Aberdeen amongst “some of the least affluent and deprived towns in Britain”! There’s lots of money in Aberdeen, not least among the tens of thousands who work offshore in the North Sea oil and gas industry, or at least what’s left of it after the downturn resulting from Jeremy Hunt’s punitive “windfall tax” and the efforts of the SNP and other nutters trying to shut it down completely.
The SNP are so intoxicated by their precious wind power that they think they can produce enough green hydrogen to supply not just Scotland but Germany as well! https://www.scottishpower.com/news/pages/scottish_german_collaboration_could_unlock_20_billion_green_hydrogen_market_in_the_eu.aspx
Ha! ‘safe and effective’ reminds me of those other famous last words ‘Et tu, Brute’ and death awaited one betrayed by those who should have been trustworthy.
Correction: there are in fact natural deposits of hydrogen on earth, but they are generally smaller and more difficult to exploit than natural gas and oil deposits:
"Known as natural hydrogen, gold hydrogen or white hydrogen, natural deposits could be an important source.
They are produced in a number of ways but the main process involves the interaction of ground water with iron-rich minerals such as olivine. This causes the water to be split into oxygen, which binds with the iron, and hydrogen.
The French discovery is not the first time that naturally-occurring hydrogen has been found - there's already a small well in Bourakébougou, western Mali, and there are also believed to be large deposits in the US, Australia, Russia and a number of European countries."
Corrected by the BBC. How will I ever live it down!?
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-67541581
😂😂fascinating though!!!!!
Hydrogen makes some sense as a vehicle fuel. Gasoline requires a huge amount of energy-consuming processing work to separate it from crude oil. Hydrogen requires a lot less processing, and its source material is basically infinite. The fuel cell combines hydrogen and oxygen into water, thus recycling most of the source material. At the vehicle, this is much cleaner than either gasoline or lithium batteries.
Hydrogen makes no sense at all for residential or commercial purposes. Electricity from nuclear, or from hydrodams where possible, is the cleanest choice for those uses.
Still the storage problem though, in stations and in vehicle fuel tanks.
Wow. Just wow. What an incredibly massive faux green scam of an experiment that will potentially put lives at risk.
Thank you for picking up on this important "story" and expressing it so well.
For true gaslighting...let’s call the hydrogen boilers ‘zeppelins’
Go for the Hindenburg model - capable of heating a 4/5 bedroom house . . . . instantly!
Well that escalated😂😂😂