Personally, I wouldn’t give any credibility to Dessler, who in my opinion is a dangerous activist. Why dangerous, because he teaches meteorology at a university.
While he posts misleading information, such as a graph of atmospheric water vapour to dismiss stratospheric water vapour. He discount’s HT stratospheric water vapour while also claiming SWV can account for 5-10%, or more of warming.
Dessler's argument is that the lower stratosphere is more sensitive to water vapour than the mid stratosphere, which is where most of the HTHH moisture ended up. His climate feedback argument assumes that some of the increasing water vapour in the troposphere is injected into the lower stratosphere (by processes other then volcanism) where it has the maximum effect on climate. Having said that, he did calculate a climate forcing from the HTHH water vapour, but then claimed that this was more than compensated for by negative radiative forcing from aerosols, hence HTHH could not have warmed the planet. He seems to have completely ignored any role for dynamical forcing.
Mmm I’m wondering why Scotland has had no summer as the dark grey clouds have never gone away I’ve never seen anything like it in all my entire 74 years what’s going on. We’re freezing. Just saying
Maybe if you could figure out a way to get this information to a person in the MAHA area that could then get it to RFK, Jr. I think he has eased a bit on some of his climate lunacy and more information is always a good thing. Maybe even trying via Twitter...I’ll see what I can find. Someone like RFK would do wonders around the world if he knocked down all this nonsense.
It really is as simple - and as damned hard! - as that EK, i.e. getting the right info up to the top of the food chain so that those in power can act upon that info. There's just such a huge amount of crap that lies in between that this simple task is often virtually impossible.
Now you raise the subject, I realise that my own Skoda Superb diesel is now 13 years old. It has only done 65,000 miles and I feel I'm being a good environmentalist in striving to keep it going. The maintenance costs are minor relative to the cost of a new car nowadays and will never buy an EV. (My previous car was a BMW!).
Off for Chritmas tomorrow, comments liable to be limited.
More evidence emerging that CO2 absorption across the infra-red is practically saturated; even doubling atmospheric CO2 to 800ppmv can only induce at most 0.5°C/K temperature rise. So something else has to have been/ be causing the warming, per the preceding albedo evidence.
Personally, I wouldn’t give any credibility to Dessler, who in my opinion is a dangerous activist. Why dangerous, because he teaches meteorology at a university.
While he posts misleading information, such as a graph of atmospheric water vapour to dismiss stratospheric water vapour. He discount’s HT stratospheric water vapour while also claiming SWV can account for 5-10%, or more of warming.
https://os5.mycloud.com/action/share/8c2aeb94-fcab-4ccb-9dc5-9aa65a6a1ffb
https://os5.mycloud.com/action/share/566df374-4dc0-4c11-9c9d-f1fa45ca575b
https://os5.mycloud.com/action/share/2c67fa71-7a4e-4922-8deb-8f153b6a5864
Dessler's argument is that the lower stratosphere is more sensitive to water vapour than the mid stratosphere, which is where most of the HTHH moisture ended up. His climate feedback argument assumes that some of the increasing water vapour in the troposphere is injected into the lower stratosphere (by processes other then volcanism) where it has the maximum effect on climate. Having said that, he did calculate a climate forcing from the HTHH water vapour, but then claimed that this was more than compensated for by negative radiative forcing from aerosols, hence HTHH could not have warmed the planet. He seems to have completely ignored any role for dynamical forcing.
Mmm I’m wondering why Scotland has had no summer as the dark grey clouds have never gone away I’ve never seen anything like it in all my entire 74 years what’s going on. We’re freezing. Just saying
Maybe if you could figure out a way to get this information to a person in the MAHA area that could then get it to RFK, Jr. I think he has eased a bit on some of his climate lunacy and more information is always a good thing. Maybe even trying via Twitter...I’ll see what I can find. Someone like RFK would do wonders around the world if he knocked down all this nonsense.
It really is as simple - and as damned hard! - as that EK, i.e. getting the right info up to the top of the food chain so that those in power can act upon that info. There's just such a huge amount of crap that lies in between that this simple task is often virtually impossible.
Yes, but better to have tried and failed than to have never tried. I’m going to give it a go!😁
Now you raise the subject, I realise that my own Skoda Superb diesel is now 13 years old. It has only done 65,000 miles and I feel I'm being a good environmentalist in striving to keep it going. The maintenance costs are minor relative to the cost of a new car nowadays and will never buy an EV. (My previous car was a BMW!).
Off for Chritmas tomorrow, comments liable to be limited.
Skoda Felicia Estate - 24 years old. 57k!
Jaime,
More evidence emerging that CO2 absorption across the infra-red is practically saturated; even doubling atmospheric CO2 to 800ppmv can only induce at most 0.5°C/K temperature rise. So something else has to have been/ be causing the warming, per the preceding albedo evidence.
See https://x.com/Kenneth72712993/status/1869891949877989501 & https://www.scirp.org/pdf/acs2024144_44701276.pdf