For weeks now, as poor weather, wet weather, cloudy weather, has plagued the UK and north America, driven by the persistent track of a powerful north Atlantic jet stream, the online chemtrail community have wailed loudly about how our blue skies have been ‘stolen’ by nefarious ongoing geoengineering operations.
The automatic flight routing systems (intentional or not) are making the skyways 'in the cons' more than they used to.
I think it's worth asking if this is causing warming. We just finished a great ep with Jim Lee from Climateviewer and I really think this is an under estimated part of the problem.
ie. In the military they avoid this zone. Why is Commercial seemingly flying in this zone way more.
Cloud seeding, weather mod, geo engineering is real and happening all over, but I'm at the point now where I don't think it matters if it's chem or con trail, it's mostly just normal traffic. It's all chemicals coming out in the end either way, and they are using it against us.
Aircraft generated high level cirrus cloud does contribute to warming. The reduction in solar radiant energy during the day is apparently more than compensated for at night by the reflection back to the surface of outgoing long wave radiation. What concerns me is that food crops and natural plant life may be affected by the lack of strong sunshine during the day.
Therefore, shouldn't one of the questions be..... Why the increase in flying in those 'con' Fly Ways? If they are so worried about warming (which they shouldn't be as this carbon tax / climate change bullshit is just the next big scam) why don't they fly outside of the cons? Is there not room and why is this not done?
Maybe because the higher you go up the longer the chemicals stay up there? Do they even know this, if it's even true?
I simply can't believe this is all from an increase in air traffic, although that would play a part.
I'm tempted to go on with my conspiracies about why this might be the case.
You need to give up on this one, geo-engineering is very much a thing. If you can't sort chemtrails from contrails by now then there's not much I can say. Oman, Dubai, now! Professed seeding at altitude by the UAE, the UN declaration against weather warfare pursuant to the US trying to wash out the Ho Chi Minh trail with rain and your very own eyes.... It's going on, has been. Various states in the US and countries legislating against geo-engineering? I concur, it is Canute trying to hold back the Sea, but it is going on and does have effects.
Seeding rain clouds in the lower to mid troposphere over UAE and Oman in order to increase rainfall in that specific region is obviously NOT the same thing as a worldwide conspiracy to spray aerosols/chemicals into the upper troposphere/lower stratosphere using the entire commercial airline fleet to do so.
Also, though the geoengineering crowd have jumped on the extreme rainfall in UAE and Oman as supposed proof of the efficacy and use of cloud seeding, the National Centre of Meteorology has said that it did not carry out cloud seeding operations either before and certainly during this intense storm:
DUBAI, United Arab Emirates — The National Center of Meteorology, a government taskforce responsible for cloud seeding missions in the United Arab Emirates, denied reports that it carried out the weather modification technique in the run-up to heavy storms across the country, therefore exacerbating flooding in places like Dubai.
The organization told CNBC that it did not dispatch pilots for seeding operations before or during the storm that struck the UAE on Tuesday.
Omar AlYazeedi, deputy director general of the NCM, said the agency “did not conduct any seeding operations during this event.”
He added, “One of the basic principles of cloud seeding is that you have to target clouds in its early stage before it rains, if you have a severe thunderstorm situation then it is too late to conduct any seeding operation.”
If that is the case, and there is no reason to expect that they are lying, then the extreme 'record breaking' rainfall is either an entirely natural event or, as some are already claiming, it was made much worse by 'climate change' TM. Once again, I am inclined to think that the evidence points to natural weather being the main driver behind the extreme rainfall in Dubai and elsewhere, not the mythical 'climate crisis' and not geoengineering.
I agree, I think the cognitive dissonance is the other way.
Mass involvement of pilots & ground crew airlines etc. Same can be said for all those medical practitioners happily jabbing people with something claimed to be 'safe & effective' and yet excess deaths are in the increase, but its not the fault or in the knowledge of those compliant in such practices.
Whilst I agree evidence for "chemtrails" is hard to find it is not beyond the bounds of reality for such things to be deliberately hidden, denounced or ignored in the mainstream.
Generally a contrail evaporates in 20 to 40 seconds, a nice short trail that is short lived. Even when clouds are in the sky.
Long lasting dirty looking trails were not a thing back 30 40 or 50 years ago.
People will always naturally reach for proof or scientific basis to protect themselves when they fear the powers at be are doing something to harm society.
Contrails evaporate quickly when the air is dry. When the relative humidity exceeds a certain point, contrails do not dissipate. I have not noticed any 'dirty' contrails - they all appear to be white due to the fact that high level cirrus-type clouds are very thin and allow plenty of sunlight to penetrate through, whereas 'dirty' low level denser rain clouds appear grey due to their much greater ability to absorb and scatter sunlight. Cirrus clouds obviously change colour at sunset and sunrise when sunlight is reflecting off their lower surface.
I fully understand the science behind condensation trails, been very interested in aircraft since i was 6.... thats 46 years ago.
So please explain why this afternoon, whilst I am looking a partially cloudy sky I see no trails at all.
And to me certain trails when they appear look dirty, it's a personal observation. They are high level, high enough to cast a shadow on the lower lever clouds. But hey, we can't all be on the same page, where would the fun be in that.
https://open.substack.com/pub/metatron/p/climate-change?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=pndty
I know very little of Rosalind Peterson but she really sounds like an uneducated conspiracy nutter to me. And yes, I am being sarcastic.
What about this to add to your list. Number 4.
The automatic flight routing systems (intentional or not) are making the skyways 'in the cons' more than they used to.
I think it's worth asking if this is causing warming. We just finished a great ep with Jim Lee from Climateviewer and I really think this is an under estimated part of the problem.
ie. In the military they avoid this zone. Why is Commercial seemingly flying in this zone way more.
Cloud seeding, weather mod, geo engineering is real and happening all over, but I'm at the point now where I don't think it matters if it's chem or con trail, it's mostly just normal traffic. It's all chemicals coming out in the end either way, and they are using it against us.
Aircraft generated high level cirrus cloud does contribute to warming. The reduction in solar radiant energy during the day is apparently more than compensated for at night by the reflection back to the surface of outgoing long wave radiation. What concerns me is that food crops and natural plant life may be affected by the lack of strong sunshine during the day.
Therefore, shouldn't one of the questions be..... Why the increase in flying in those 'con' Fly Ways? If they are so worried about warming (which they shouldn't be as this carbon tax / climate change bullshit is just the next big scam) why don't they fly outside of the cons? Is there not room and why is this not done?
Maybe because the higher you go up the longer the chemicals stay up there? Do they even know this, if it's even true?
I simply can't believe this is all from an increase in air traffic, although that would play a part.
I'm tempted to go on with my conspiracies about why this might be the case.
You need to give up on this one, geo-engineering is very much a thing. If you can't sort chemtrails from contrails by now then there's not much I can say. Oman, Dubai, now! Professed seeding at altitude by the UAE, the UN declaration against weather warfare pursuant to the US trying to wash out the Ho Chi Minh trail with rain and your very own eyes.... It's going on, has been. Various states in the US and countries legislating against geo-engineering? I concur, it is Canute trying to hold back the Sea, but it is going on and does have effects.
Seeding rain clouds in the lower to mid troposphere over UAE and Oman in order to increase rainfall in that specific region is obviously NOT the same thing as a worldwide conspiracy to spray aerosols/chemicals into the upper troposphere/lower stratosphere using the entire commercial airline fleet to do so.
Also, though the geoengineering crowd have jumped on the extreme rainfall in UAE and Oman as supposed proof of the efficacy and use of cloud seeding, the National Centre of Meteorology has said that it did not carry out cloud seeding operations either before and certainly during this intense storm:
DUBAI, United Arab Emirates — The National Center of Meteorology, a government taskforce responsible for cloud seeding missions in the United Arab Emirates, denied reports that it carried out the weather modification technique in the run-up to heavy storms across the country, therefore exacerbating flooding in places like Dubai.
The organization told CNBC that it did not dispatch pilots for seeding operations before or during the storm that struck the UAE on Tuesday.
Omar AlYazeedi, deputy director general of the NCM, said the agency “did not conduct any seeding operations during this event.”
He added, “One of the basic principles of cloud seeding is that you have to target clouds in its early stage before it rains, if you have a severe thunderstorm situation then it is too late to conduct any seeding operation.”
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/04/17/uae-denies-cloud-seeding-took-place-before-severe-dubai-floods.html
If that is the case, and there is no reason to expect that they are lying, then the extreme 'record breaking' rainfall is either an entirely natural event or, as some are already claiming, it was made much worse by 'climate change' TM. Once again, I am inclined to think that the evidence points to natural weather being the main driver behind the extreme rainfall in Dubai and elsewhere, not the mythical 'climate crisis' and not geoengineering.
I agree, I think the cognitive dissonance is the other way.
Mass involvement of pilots & ground crew airlines etc. Same can be said for all those medical practitioners happily jabbing people with something claimed to be 'safe & effective' and yet excess deaths are in the increase, but its not the fault or in the knowledge of those compliant in such practices.
Whilst I agree evidence for "chemtrails" is hard to find it is not beyond the bounds of reality for such things to be deliberately hidden, denounced or ignored in the mainstream.
Generally a contrail evaporates in 20 to 40 seconds, a nice short trail that is short lived. Even when clouds are in the sky.
Long lasting dirty looking trails were not a thing back 30 40 or 50 years ago.
People will always naturally reach for proof or scientific basis to protect themselves when they fear the powers at be are doing something to harm society.
Contrails evaporate quickly when the air is dry. When the relative humidity exceeds a certain point, contrails do not dissipate. I have not noticed any 'dirty' contrails - they all appear to be white due to the fact that high level cirrus-type clouds are very thin and allow plenty of sunlight to penetrate through, whereas 'dirty' low level denser rain clouds appear grey due to their much greater ability to absorb and scatter sunlight. Cirrus clouds obviously change colour at sunset and sunrise when sunlight is reflecting off their lower surface.
I fully understand the science behind condensation trails, been very interested in aircraft since i was 6.... thats 46 years ago.
So please explain why this afternoon, whilst I am looking a partially cloudy sky I see no trails at all.
And to me certain trails when they appear look dirty, it's a personal observation. They are high level, high enough to cast a shadow on the lower lever clouds. But hey, we can't all be on the same page, where would the fun be in that.
:"Long lasting dirty looking trails were not a thing back 30 40 or 50 years ago."
Photos of WWII B17 bomber contrails and BoB fighter contrails suggest otherwise.
https://barbarawhitaker.com/2016/12/12/contrails-in-the-sky/
https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205360828
https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205194290
https://airforcemuseum.co.nz/wp-content/webp-express/webp-images/uploads/2021/02/MUS06006.jpg.webp
I can remember long-lasting contrails going back over 70 years.
I have a link that I shared recently of a testimony from a pilot about this very topic. Can't find it now, will share later
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/electric-vehicles-cause-cancer?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=695291&post_id=143639009&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=12zeer&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email
Complex systems, like the weather...