This was the moment when the Ukraine peace conference, under the glare of the world’s media, began to unravel, and it was sparked by a question from the media:
The Black Belt Barrister is running a poll on his channel asking his viewers if they agree Yes/No. With 35k votes cast the result is Yes 15%, No 85% https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtmMl8ISPcY
The surreal happenings over Ukraine bring back wonderings over whether our politicians are “mad or bad”. They seem to live on a different planet to the one I live on. It’s the same with climate change, with Covid, with mass immigration and with the extremes of wokery.
Are they mad in the Lewis Carroll (1832-1898) Alice in Wonderland sense of being able to believe six impossible things before breakfast? Or are they bad in that they know it’s all nonsense but they pretend to believe it in order to advance their ulterior motives? I still hold to the latter (bad), at least for the leaders, but I can’t help wondering.
Maybe I’m mad for not going along with it all. Maybe Donald Trump and the majority of the American people who voted him into office are mad. Surely not!
'War is a racket to wash money out of the tax base and into the hands of a transnational security elite.'
"The goal is to have an endless war, not a successful war."
They are bad. They did it with Covid. Then they pivoted rapidly to Ukraine. Now they are going full on 'War with Russia!' The Endless War is the war against climate change, against imaginary deadly viruses, against evil Putin, or whatever they come up with next, if necessary. Net Zero, Covid and War in Europe will suck every last penny from the British working and middle classes and redistribute it to that transnational security elite.
So, the coke snorting midget, second rate actor/comedian flies straight to London and Starmer and Reeves hand him another £2.6 billion of UK taxpayer funds during a warmongers' love-in at Downing Street. The little shit looks so happy to be with friends after the grown-ups in America told him where to get off. How lovely. The British people, the farmers, the pensioners, the sick, the elderly, the oil workers, the chemical factory workers, those struggling to pay their fuels bills; they can all get fucked as far as Weird Stalin and Rachel from Accounts are concerned. The Ukrainian conman and his meat grinder/cash laundry are far more important.
To be clear: I'm British. I stand with America. I stand with Trump and Vance for peace. I stand for the Fallen - both Russian and Ukrainian. I stand for the Ukrainians press-ganged into serving on the front line and being slaughtered soon after.
I stand AGAINST Zelensky, against the war whores of the EU, NATO, the British media, the British political establishment (Conservative, Labour and even Reform) - all of whom wish to prolong the senseless killing and the theft of taxpayers' money, for a deliberately provoked and manufactured conflict which nonetheless threatens to escalate into WW3. I stand opposite the War Pigs - on the right side of history. I am utterly sickened by this unfolding spectacle now - going on in MY country.
I have several good close friends who are Ukranians that migrated here decades ago. Even from the beginning in 2022-ish when the narrative pivoted from "Covid" to "Evil Putin" I would ask them if this war made any sense as victory (simply look at a map) was a fantasy.
Most vociferously would spout out the latest talking points from legacy media. But recently since Orange Man assumed the chief puppet slot they've come around to realize the map was right and now they've lost an entire generation of their boys for absolutely nothing.
The US administration is simply dealing with the facts of this matter and trying to broker a solution. Granted, one which benefits the US through the minerals deals, but so many people including European politicians and the commentariat need to wake up, grow up and realise this isn't a movie, and our version of the "good guy" doesn't necessarily get what they "deserve". When nobody is happy with a deal but everyone can just about live with it, that is as good as it gets in real politik.
What Zelensky says at around 42:20 doesn’t make sense according to my understanding, which admittedly could be wrong because of distortion by the corrupt MSM, namely that in 2015 Russia was encroaching on Ukrainian territory and killing Ukrainians.
My understanding is that in 2014, the US deep state organised a coup in Ukraine which threw out the pro-Russia president. Subsequently the anti-Russia Ukrainians waged civil war against the ethnic Russians in the Donbas region, killing tens of thousands. This persecution of ethnic Russians was the last straw for Putin, on top of the US/NATO push ever eastwards right up to the Russian border. Hence his February 2022 Invasion, which western propaganda falsely claims was unprovoked.
Trying to push NATO right up to the Russian border was a reckless Russia-baiting “game” according to Jeffrey Sacks, who explains the sorry history from when Clinton started these deep state machinations in 1994 in this 10-minute clip: https://x.com/ricwe123/status/1892857808246177971.
The Europeans let themselves get sucked into this US deep state game and apparently came to believe their own propaganda that Russia was a threat to the whole of Europe. It’s a bit like how so many have come to believe their own fake climate change propaganda. Now that Trump has pulled the plug on Ukraine ever joining NATO, they and Zelensky are left in a befuddled, impotent tizzy.
My Hungarian friend, has just said to me, none of this would have happened if Ukraine hadn't been killing Russians in Ukraine (and Hungarians, Polish...). But Zelensky is a hero! 🙄
Thank you, and I agree with your account of things.
I would also point out, as I fully imagine you know, the war party elements in this country are more than happy to see any meat-grinder continue allowing them to profit by selling weapons and other forms of graft (as currently being exposed in unprecedented fashion). I believe these war-whores are actually just useful tools of the oligarchic class that foment wars not merely for profit (including picking up assets for pennies on the dollar) but primarily to suppress humanity at large in order to retain their elite supremacy.
It is a bit hard to decipher what Zelensky is going on about there as his command of English is imperfect, but not so imperfect I think that he is not trying to rewrite history in his favour and portray Putin as the cartoonish evil dictator-invader, which image is the stock-in-trade of the liberal Left establishment.
Zelensky struggled with the language barrier. That didn't help. But there are some base facts and that is there is no scenario in which Ukraine can win this war. So they either go for peace now or wait for more to die and go for peace then. Putin might just roll tanks into Kiev in 6 months and take the lot.
If someone steals something from you, you want it back. Not a half, not negotiated, and even with some sort of compensation and justice being carried out in that the robber suffers the consequences of the law. If another country invaded the U.S., the president would not be wishing to negotiate and lose half of what they had lost. Compromise often suits neither party, and is often therefore not a solution.
Churchill was given the same power as Zalenski during WW2. Was he a dictator? Who needs internal political struggles when unity is so imperative? How can Trump be so arrogant as to call the Ukrainian leader a dictator? Beyond belief!
because he is a dictator! Z is NOT Churchill. Russia did not "steal" anything. Russia responded just the way the US would if China started installing military bases just across our border in Mexico.
You do know that Russia offered a peace deal only 6 weeks into the war, right? The deal was Russia would return to pre-invasion boundaries! Russia did NOT want territory, they wanted security. In return Ukraine would agree to not join NATO and to not let NATO or the US put military bases inside their country. That's it. That's all Russia wanted. But people like you continue to demonize Putin as some land-grabbing neo-Hitler.
So what happened to that peace deal, you ask? Welp, war mongers Biden and Blinken wouldn't have it. So they sent their lackey Boris Johnson to Ukraine to tell Z, "no no no you cannot end this yet. Hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian and Russian men must die first." Butchers Blinken and Biden got their way, Z refused to sign the deal, and yes, hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian and Russian men have died as a result.
You mean the country that stole the election and installed a puppet of the US government via a murderous coup?
If that country is then murdering "Russians", constantly provoking you and threatening to put nukes on your border, to accompany the 40+ bioweapons labs, then talk only gets you so far.
Nothing "grown up" about Vance or Trump. Both were arrogant assholes and Zelensky did not help himself trying to reason with them through philosophy. Like Saddam, bin Laden, etc etc - we helped elevate Zelensky to power. This is just as much our war as Ukraine's as "we" (including the 4 administrations prior to now - including Trump's previous - the Neo-cons, both parties, & military industrial complex have long desired to poke at Putin to engage him in war. So, unfortunately, Trump and Vance have inherited that and makes it all the more important for Trump and Vance to acknowledge this, not just act childishly and wash hands of our supreme responsibility. Ukraine would have lasted one day against Russia if it were not for US.
The Ukraine proxy war against evil Putin is the Democrats' war, the EU's war, the British Deep State's war, the globalist's war, it is not Trump or Vance's war and it's not 'our' war. Trump and Vance are right to reject their 'inheritance' from those actors. They have no responsibility to keep funding it or provide 'security' to maintain an uneasy truce. Trump sees it as his moral responsibility to end the killing and save lives - on both sides - plus get American taxpayers off the hook for more Zelensky coke and real estate funds. That's what he and Vance are trying to do - arrogantly or otherwise.
Deep state, globalist, evil empire - now Putin, etc. gibberish have got nothing on the simple need of the military industrial complex (capitalism) to promote war. You can fiddle over whether we and Israel are at the apex of that complex. Every one of us votes every day in our actions to support a military budget that, in turn supposedly supports strategic interests and our lifestyle. Outside a couple Democrats, Kennedy, and "far out" candidates like the greens, there is no resistance to the military budget and our imperialistic notions.
It was a globalist war, maybe little more than a massive distraction to fill the gap of the waning Covid “plandemic”. In the span of a few days the MSM switched from lockstep Covid fearmongering to lockstep obsessing about Ukraine and “evil Putin”.
The adolescent-level thinking that has been so pervasive among our so-called “leaders” is that “Putin = evil so therefore everyone should say the worst things they can imagine about him” reminds me of middle-schoolers.
Is Putin going to withdraw from Ukraine because he doesn’t want to be called a poo-poo bum face? Or is it more realistic, among adults, to try to engender at least some level of mutual goodwill and encourage the peaceful settling of differences, no matter how you may feel about the belligerents?
Jaw Jaw not War War, to quote Churchill. Oh, the horror of the global anciene regime as Trump schools Zelensky in reality.
Smacked my gob watching it. Never witnessed anything like it in the corridors of power in all my years (73!).
Trump and Vance will have got full measure of our sociopath PM. To send him of with warmest feeling will simply mean Starmer matters to them. The whopping will come, sooner or later
Trump and co. love Britain. More than Starmer by a long streak.
Starmer asserts that Zelensky has “full backing across the United Kingdom” https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/national/uk-today/24974320.keir-starmer-tells-zelensky-full-backing-uk/
The Black Belt Barrister is running a poll on his channel asking his viewers if they agree Yes/No. With 35k votes cast the result is Yes 15%, No 85% https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtmMl8ISPcY
The video is well worth watching.
The surreal happenings over Ukraine bring back wonderings over whether our politicians are “mad or bad”. They seem to live on a different planet to the one I live on. It’s the same with climate change, with Covid, with mass immigration and with the extremes of wokery.
Are they mad in the Lewis Carroll (1832-1898) Alice in Wonderland sense of being able to believe six impossible things before breakfast? Or are they bad in that they know it’s all nonsense but they pretend to believe it in order to advance their ulterior motives? I still hold to the latter (bad), at least for the leaders, but I can’t help wondering.
Maybe I’m mad for not going along with it all. Maybe Donald Trump and the majority of the American people who voted him into office are mad. Surely not!
Assange:
'War is a racket to wash money out of the tax base and into the hands of a transnational security elite.'
"The goal is to have an endless war, not a successful war."
They are bad. They did it with Covid. Then they pivoted rapidly to Ukraine. Now they are going full on 'War with Russia!' The Endless War is the war against climate change, against imaginary deadly viruses, against evil Putin, or whatever they come up with next, if necessary. Net Zero, Covid and War in Europe will suck every last penny from the British working and middle classes and redistribute it to that transnational security elite.
As per the official script (Neil Oliver): https://x.com/thecoastguy/status/1895828140687081833
So, the coke snorting midget, second rate actor/comedian flies straight to London and Starmer and Reeves hand him another £2.6 billion of UK taxpayer funds during a warmongers' love-in at Downing Street. The little shit looks so happy to be with friends after the grown-ups in America told him where to get off. How lovely. The British people, the farmers, the pensioners, the sick, the elderly, the oil workers, the chemical factory workers, those struggling to pay their fuels bills; they can all get fucked as far as Weird Stalin and Rachel from Accounts are concerned. The Ukrainian conman and his meat grinder/cash laundry are far more important.
To be clear: I'm British. I stand with America. I stand with Trump and Vance for peace. I stand for the Fallen - both Russian and Ukrainian. I stand for the Ukrainians press-ganged into serving on the front line and being slaughtered soon after.
I stand AGAINST Zelensky, against the war whores of the EU, NATO, the British media, the British political establishment (Conservative, Labour and even Reform) - all of whom wish to prolong the senseless killing and the theft of taxpayers' money, for a deliberately provoked and manufactured conflict which nonetheless threatens to escalate into WW3. I stand opposite the War Pigs - on the right side of history. I am utterly sickened by this unfolding spectacle now - going on in MY country.
With you. Well articulated.
I have several good close friends who are Ukranians that migrated here decades ago. Even from the beginning in 2022-ish when the narrative pivoted from "Covid" to "Evil Putin" I would ask them if this war made any sense as victory (simply look at a map) was a fantasy.
Most vociferously would spout out the latest talking points from legacy media. But recently since Orange Man assumed the chief puppet slot they've come around to realize the map was right and now they've lost an entire generation of their boys for absolutely nothing.
Math always wins in the end.
The US administration is simply dealing with the facts of this matter and trying to broker a solution. Granted, one which benefits the US through the minerals deals, but so many people including European politicians and the commentariat need to wake up, grow up and realise this isn't a movie, and our version of the "good guy" doesn't necessarily get what they "deserve". When nobody is happy with a deal but everyone can just about live with it, that is as good as it gets in real politik.
If Trump just stops the money flow completely and stops US military targeting / assistance, I suspect that Ukraine would crumble within days.
It was never going to win this war, so the million lives lost were purely to feed the war machine and the ego's of the parasites in power.
What Zelensky says at around 42:20 doesn’t make sense according to my understanding, which admittedly could be wrong because of distortion by the corrupt MSM, namely that in 2015 Russia was encroaching on Ukrainian territory and killing Ukrainians.
My understanding is that in 2014, the US deep state organised a coup in Ukraine which threw out the pro-Russia president. Subsequently the anti-Russia Ukrainians waged civil war against the ethnic Russians in the Donbas region, killing tens of thousands. This persecution of ethnic Russians was the last straw for Putin, on top of the US/NATO push ever eastwards right up to the Russian border. Hence his February 2022 Invasion, which western propaganda falsely claims was unprovoked.
Trying to push NATO right up to the Russian border was a reckless Russia-baiting “game” according to Jeffrey Sacks, who explains the sorry history from when Clinton started these deep state machinations in 1994 in this 10-minute clip: https://x.com/ricwe123/status/1892857808246177971.
See also this recent article on the lies surrounding the war in Ukraine: https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/ukraine-the-nazis-and-a-war-built-on-lies/
The Europeans let themselves get sucked into this US deep state game and apparently came to believe their own propaganda that Russia was a threat to the whole of Europe. It’s a bit like how so many have come to believe their own fake climate change propaganda. Now that Trump has pulled the plug on Ukraine ever joining NATO, they and Zelensky are left in a befuddled, impotent tizzy.
A year ago Tucker Carlson interviewed Putin who came across as more sensible and decent than Biden and most of our treasonous Uniparty politicians: https://tuckercarlson.com/the-vladimir-putin-interview.
Are these people really our enemies (Moscow flashmob)? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNXd3wX_USc.
My Hungarian friend, has just said to me, none of this would have happened if Ukraine hadn't been killing Russians in Ukraine (and Hungarians, Polish...). But Zelensky is a hero! 🙄
Here’s another rendition of the history of the Ukraine and Zelensky that you won't hear from the bought-and-paid-for MSM (thread): https://x.com/NationFirstAust/status/1895791087144595837.
Thank you, and I agree with your account of things.
I would also point out, as I fully imagine you know, the war party elements in this country are more than happy to see any meat-grinder continue allowing them to profit by selling weapons and other forms of graft (as currently being exposed in unprecedented fashion). I believe these war-whores are actually just useful tools of the oligarchic class that foment wars not merely for profit (including picking up assets for pennies on the dollar) but primarily to suppress humanity at large in order to retain their elite supremacy.
It is a bit hard to decipher what Zelensky is going on about there as his command of English is imperfect, but not so imperfect I think that he is not trying to rewrite history in his favour and portray Putin as the cartoonish evil dictator-invader, which image is the stock-in-trade of the liberal Left establishment.
I now wonder if they did the same portrayal to Hitler.
There are too many anomalies in the "evil Hitler" story I grew up with.
They didnt.
Really?
So he was evil and we were the good guys eh?
Then you need to watch The greatest story never told.
And Europa.
And Hellstorm.
Zelensky struggled with the language barrier. That didn't help. But there are some base facts and that is there is no scenario in which Ukraine can win this war. So they either go for peace now or wait for more to die and go for peace then. Putin might just roll tanks into Kiev in 6 months and take the lot.
If someone steals something from you, you want it back. Not a half, not negotiated, and even with some sort of compensation and justice being carried out in that the robber suffers the consequences of the law. If another country invaded the U.S., the president would not be wishing to negotiate and lose half of what they had lost. Compromise often suits neither party, and is often therefore not a solution.
Churchill was given the same power as Zalenski during WW2. Was he a dictator? Who needs internal political struggles when unity is so imperative? How can Trump be so arrogant as to call the Ukrainian leader a dictator? Beyond belief!
because he is a dictator! Z is NOT Churchill. Russia did not "steal" anything. Russia responded just the way the US would if China started installing military bases just across our border in Mexico.
You do know that Russia offered a peace deal only 6 weeks into the war, right? The deal was Russia would return to pre-invasion boundaries! Russia did NOT want territory, they wanted security. In return Ukraine would agree to not join NATO and to not let NATO or the US put military bases inside their country. That's it. That's all Russia wanted. But people like you continue to demonize Putin as some land-grabbing neo-Hitler.
So what happened to that peace deal, you ask? Welp, war mongers Biden and Blinken wouldn't have it. So they sent their lackey Boris Johnson to Ukraine to tell Z, "no no no you cannot end this yet. Hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian and Russian men must die first." Butchers Blinken and Biden got their way, Z refused to sign the deal, and yes, hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian and Russian men have died as a result.
You mean the country that stole the election and installed a puppet of the US government via a murderous coup?
If that country is then murdering "Russians", constantly provoking you and threatening to put nukes on your border, to accompany the 40+ bioweapons labs, then talk only gets you so far.
Ukraine / US / UK caused this war.
Putin just responded.
Yes, that was a mistake; he should have called him a corrupt dictator. There is no comparison of Churchill with Zelensky.
Nothing "grown up" about Vance or Trump. Both were arrogant assholes and Zelensky did not help himself trying to reason with them through philosophy. Like Saddam, bin Laden, etc etc - we helped elevate Zelensky to power. This is just as much our war as Ukraine's as "we" (including the 4 administrations prior to now - including Trump's previous - the Neo-cons, both parties, & military industrial complex have long desired to poke at Putin to engage him in war. So, unfortunately, Trump and Vance have inherited that and makes it all the more important for Trump and Vance to acknowledge this, not just act childishly and wash hands of our supreme responsibility. Ukraine would have lasted one day against Russia if it were not for US.
The Ukraine proxy war against evil Putin is the Democrats' war, the EU's war, the British Deep State's war, the globalist's war, it is not Trump or Vance's war and it's not 'our' war. Trump and Vance are right to reject their 'inheritance' from those actors. They have no responsibility to keep funding it or provide 'security' to maintain an uneasy truce. Trump sees it as his moral responsibility to end the killing and save lives - on both sides - plus get American taxpayers off the hook for more Zelensky coke and real estate funds. That's what he and Vance are trying to do - arrogantly or otherwise.
Deep state, globalist, evil empire - now Putin, etc. gibberish have got nothing on the simple need of the military industrial complex (capitalism) to promote war. You can fiddle over whether we and Israel are at the apex of that complex. Every one of us votes every day in our actions to support a military budget that, in turn supposedly supports strategic interests and our lifestyle. Outside a couple Democrats, Kennedy, and "far out" candidates like the greens, there is no resistance to the military budget and our imperialistic notions.
It was a globalist war, maybe little more than a massive distraction to fill the gap of the waning Covid “plandemic”. In the span of a few days the MSM switched from lockstep Covid fearmongering to lockstep obsessing about Ukraine and “evil Putin”.
This Bob Moran cartoon summed it up nicely: https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/57d675fc46c3c43b07adb974/1722590926090-3AWN5CNUP3E595T9PGN8/WORLD+STAGE+200.jpg?format=750w.
An excellent 3-minute summary of the Ukraine war scam from Katie Hopkins: https://x.com/KTHopkins/status/1895559301374398661.
The adolescent-level thinking that has been so pervasive among our so-called “leaders” is that “Putin = evil so therefore everyone should say the worst things they can imagine about him” reminds me of middle-schoolers.
Is Putin going to withdraw from Ukraine because he doesn’t want to be called a poo-poo bum face? Or is it more realistic, among adults, to try to engender at least some level of mutual goodwill and encourage the peaceful settling of differences, no matter how you may feel about the belligerents?
Jaw Jaw not War War, to quote Churchill. Oh, the horror of the global anciene regime as Trump schools Zelensky in reality.
Smacked my gob watching it. Never witnessed anything like it in the corridors of power in all my years (73!).
Trump and Vance will have got full measure of our sociopath PM. To send him of with warmest feeling will simply mean Starmer matters to them. The whopping will come, sooner or later
Trump and co. love Britain. More than Starmer by a long streak.
Maybe it’s like those mockumentaries where the plot is predefined but the actors improv the scenes?