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Jo Waller's avatar

Hi Jaime,

I've written more about the 'spike' and vaccines here https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/how-much-do-we-understand-about-the How sensible is it to inject mRNA which will keep on making p180-200 directly into the body? p180-200 has many interactions and functions involved in detoxification and inflammation and normally the body can completely control how much of it is present. The mRNA will work against the bodies own feedback loops and balances. Are we surprised that cancers seem to be rising in the vaccinated?

Jo

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Jaime Jessop's avatar

Hi Jo, I'm just a bit confused about the numbered p notifications you are using for the proteins. I'm not familiar with them. Could you point me to an explanatory link? Thanks.

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Jo Waller's avatar

Hi again,

PS. proteins are identified on electrophoresis gels by how heavy they are not by their structure or function so is most helpful to refer to them by where they fall in the band compared to a standard. The spike protein that they have reverse engineered from genetic code falls in the 180-200 range, so the mRNA is not consistently producing exactly the same thing.

The 'spike' protein that has been observed in stressed cell cultures by different researchers falls in the bands between 132 and 230 so what they are all calling the 'spike' is not necessarily the same protein.

Jo

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Jo Waller's avatar

Hiya Jaime, yes the molecular mass of substances are measured in Da or u. The atomic mass of hydrogen being 1 and the mass of all other atoms measured in reference to this. Proteins are polymers made of up many molecules of carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen and oxygen in each amino acid and in turn many amino acids in each protein. so the number would be huge and is referred to in kilo daltons( kDa)

Because proteins come in all sorts of polymers of themselves, and have more than one function; it's helpful to identify them and refer to them as their molecular weight (sum of all their atoms) rather than a name. Thus the protein actin in the body is called p for protein followed by its molecular weight (ie the sum of all its contituent atoms in kDA; p41. It's also helpful because a protein with one name can have different molecular weights according to different people, ie it will be made up of different amounts of amino acids. If we say something is 'actin' we can't be sure we're talking about the same actual substance, but if we say p41 or p42 we can be clearer what is being talked about.

I hope this helps. I shall put this in my post.

Jo

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Jaime Jessop's avatar

Thanks, I appreciate the detailed explanation.

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Jo Waller's avatar

You are very welcome 🐒

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George Menyhei's avatar

In Hungary the Romani were more severely affected by COVID (good luck on getting official stats on this, but I have my sources).

This was chiefly down to one comorbidity factor: obesity. They have it, and they have it hard, I'd say out 10 Romani above the age of 20, 9 are obese (men and women alike).

Since being poor and malnourished is still the predominant cultural meme, the Left didn't pursue this topic, as it went against their baseline "starving Romani" narrative.

They did accuse the government of not being culturally sensitive when it comes to promoting vaccines among them, and when the government did a campaign targeting the Romani, using Gypsy celebs and a message tuned for the demographic, they were accused of being insensitive and racist.

You can never win with these people.

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Jaime Jessop's avatar

Good to hear a perspective from a European country which the media hardly ever report on. As black people in the US are more likely to suffer from obesity than their white counterparts, this in conjunction with your info on the Romani would suggest that obesity is the main factor affecting severe Covid outcomes and the apparent racial disparity is cultural, as is (was) the racial disparity among those choosing (or being forced) to get 'vaccinated'.

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George Menyhei's avatar

That would be my ultimate conclusion, yes. Although I try to avoid the topic of COVID for the benefit of my mental health.

No matter how disadvantaged you are in the West, as an ethnic group, a minority, you're still above the Third World baseline in all aspects (proof: the millions heading here). Corona didn't turn the Third World into an open grave, it passed without notice. What they don't have over there is obesity.

They also have an age pyramid skewing to the young, whom rona' is harmless, but that's an argument that those in the West who insist on masking up school children will never recognize. I also ignore this since, as far as the Romani goes, their age pyramid is also skewed towards the young, so they had a higher mortality despite this advantage. Obesity is then.

I'd argue that in the US there are two powerful forces working against recognizing this: the financial and political capital to be gained from ethnic grievances, and the third rail of mentioning "fat" in a negative context. That's two too many clothes off the current Emperor.

I will tend to my garden now to flush COVID from my thoughts.

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Jaime Jessop's avatar

Wise words and even wiser actions. Thanks.

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Gary Sharpe's avatar

Update on outbreak in care home where I live here.

I am pleased to say that everyone who got the virus in the care home here appear to have gotten through it. Of around 10 people on my corridor, the 7 who got symptoms had all been boosted just three weeks earlier. Of the 3 people who declined the new booster, two of us never tested positive (me, and a 90 year old frail lady), and the other lady with compromised immune function tested positive, but had zero symptomsm so it looks like a false positive or that the symptoms were less than in those boosted and positive. So in our mini "clinical trial" here, the new booster was found totally ineffective and may even make vulnerable folks more prone to infection. Yes this is anecdotal and small numbers, but it is a more realistic result of 10 vulnerable humans with a control group than the test in 8 mice on which the Emergency Use Authorization was granted. Tax payers should be demanding their money back.

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Jaime Jessop's avatar

Very pleased to hear that. The 'bivalent booster' available in the UK was targeted supposedly at Ba.1, which is now extinct and the dominant circulating sub-variant is Ba.5. But it's totally ineffective against both. Even the Ba.5 specific bivalent booster - as approved by 8 dead mice - in the US is proving to be totally ineffective against Ba.4/Ba.5 infections. It is fortunate that Omicron Ba.5 is a mild upper respiratory disease, not nearly as dangerous to vulnerable groups as were earlier versions of the SC-2 virus.

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