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Toffeepud's avatar

There's no such thing as "clean" or "green" energy. How on earth do people think those vast monolithic turbines are produced? How do they get here from China and where do they go when their 25 yr lifespan is up? Hmm?

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Jaime Jessop's avatar

It drives me nuts when I hear politicians and Green propagandists use the term 'clean energy'. NO means of generating energy is totally 'clean' in that it does not have some measurable environmental footprint, but 'renewables' are a filthy, rotten scam; not good for the environment, the economy, or for people. Their ONLY purpose is to enrich the few at the expense of the many and to ration and control the use of energy.

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Jo Waller's avatar

Yes it's a disaster- wood burning is not green or sustainable, sharing renewables between countries when there are gluts and troughs is proving impossible and carbon offsets are a scam

Doesn't alter the fact that the climate crisis, from deforestation, animal ag and burning fossils fuels (and decreasing air pollution) is upon us and is going to get one helluva lot worse, by as early as 2070 there could be as many as 1.2 billion climate refugees, mostly brown or black skinned migrating north as it gets too hot for agriculture. And we think there's a refugee crisis now!

https://jowaller.substack.com/p/burning-fossil-fuels-is-the-plan?utm_source=publication-search

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Rafe Champion's avatar

The spectre of power failure is haunting Europe!

https://www.flickerpower.com/images/The_endless_wind_drought_crippling_renewables___The_Spectator_Australia.pdf

Nothing new, sailors and millers must have known about them for ever. But the meteorologists never bothered to warn.

The Energy Realists of Australia have been banging on about this for years because our wind-watchers were onto wind droughts years ago but nobody could be persuaded to take them seriously.

It is a frog in the saucepan situation, the wind and solar supply don't matter until the subsidised and mandated unreliables drive enough conventional capacity out of the system until we reach a tipping point, and then it is too late.

https://newcatallaxy.blog/2023/07/11/approaching-the-tipping-point/

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Douglas Brodie's avatar

I’ve been drafting a post to publish as a “we told you so” when the country gets paralyzed by dunkelflaute power cuts in cold, dark, windless midwinter. The following extract on the skulduggeries of the climate-industrial complex may be of interest.

It compares Gavin Schmidt’s NASA graph of surface temperatures https://bsky.app/profile/climateofgavin.bsky.social/post/3l74a2hbkrq2x with the UAH graph of tropospheric temperatures https://www.drroyspencer.com/wp-content/uploads/UAH_LT_1979_thru_September_2024_v6_20x9-scaled.jpg.

Schmidt has mendaciously claimed [Independent, Earth is likely to have its hottest year on record - again] that “The long-term [temperature] trends are entirely due to our impact on climate”. To debunk this, look from the 26-years ago 1998 El Nino warming spike to the present time to compare and contrast the undoctored UAH graph with the NASA graph with its inherent Urban Heat Island warming bias and its obviously cheating retrospective adjustments.

The UAH graph shows the well-documented "pause" in global warming https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2014/12/cause_of_pause_in_global_warming.html which lasted until about 2014 but this has now been airbrushed out of the doctored NASA graph. Both graphs show the 2016 and 2020 natural El Nino warming spikes but the NASA graph shows them starting and ending much higher above the pause temperature level than the UAH graph. This has the effect of showing the current Hunga Tonga warming spike which started in 2023 to be only about 0.3°C in the doctored NASA graph versus a stonking 1°C in the undoctored UAH graph.

Schmidt and his colleagues pretend that this warming spike is nothing to do with the Hunga Tonga eruption yet its amplitude and longevity in the UAH graph show it to be completely different from any prior El Nino (e.g. 1998 or 2016) and it can’t possibly be due to man-made CO2 because of its sudden onset. Their denial of Hunga Tonga is proof of their mendacity.

The undoctored UAH temperature graph shows clearly that if transient natural events (El Nino/La Nina and Hunga Tonga) are disregarded, global temperatures have flat-lined or even fallen slightly since 1998. The doctored NASA graph shows a rise of about 0.3°C, hardly a cause for hysterics even if it was genuinely “man-made” rather than from just fiddling the figures. What this 26-year trend shows is emphatically not a man-made climate emergency!

A decisive fall in global temperatures from the current spike is sure to occur when the Hunga Tonga water vapour eventually dissipates, maybe in a couple of years, nobody knows for sure. How will the professional liars of the climate-industrial complex explain that? Easy, I predict they’ll say it’s due to a very strong La Nina. These liars have no option now but to double down and continue their desperate lying, especially as they know that the cold phase (as in the 1960s and 70s) of the cyclical AMO will soon be upon us. Thankfully, more and more of the general public are now seeing through their lies.

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Jo Waller's avatar

Let’s compare HT to humanity. On Jan. 15, 2022, the same day that the HT volcano injected 146 megatons of water into the atmosphere, humans dumped about 100 megatons of CO2 into the atmosphere.

On the next day, Jan. 16, HT was silent, but humans dumped another 100 megatons of CO2 into the atmosphere. On Jan. 17, humans again dumped 100 megatons of CO2 into the atmosphere. Ditto for Jan. 18, 19, 20, …

Put this way, HT looks a whole lot less impressive. So the real question is: What is the relative climate impact of HT’s 146 megatons of water vapor vs. humanity’s 100 megatons per day of CO2?

You can’t simply compare kilograms of water vapor to kilograms of carbon dioxide to determine which is having a bigger climate impact. You need to do calculations that account for the detailed absorption of each gas as well as where the gas is injected into the atmosphere.

The positive radiative forcing2 from HT’s water vapor is around 0.1 W/m2. Human emissions of carbon dioxide are, of course, also warming the climate and it takes 1,000 days of human CO2 emissions to generate the same radiative forcing.

But HT also injected cooling aerosols into the stratosphere, which offset its warming. Our best estimate is therefore that HT has not warmed the global-average climate at all. Humans, of course, continue to warm the climate.

https://www.theclimatebrink.com/p/the-real-lesson-of-the-hunga-tonga

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Jo Waller's avatar

Bascially Schmidt is comspiring to make the situation look better than it is. Would't want any pressure to be put on governements of the 1% responsible for most of it to do something about it.

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Jo Waller's avatar

Yes FYI- 'Gavin Schmidt at NASA/GISS is the “Head” of the Agency. He is the guy who replaced James Hansen during the Bush II years. He is also the guy who started GISS using 1880 as the “preindustrial baseline” during the Trump years. Gavin Schmidt is a bureaucrat who’s “scientific position” changes with whoever is in charge of his Agency’s budget.'

However doctoring, and insistence that it's all down to co2 is working to downplay the situation: which Schmidt is keen to emphasis 'is not spiralling out of control'.

Honga Tonga's water vapour seems to have been cancelled out by its aerosols, but changes in albedo from decreases in air pollution, happening well before 2020, is having a big impact. https://richardcrim.substack.com/p/the-crisis-report-95

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jim peden's avatar

You probably already know but Chris Bond has carried out detailed analyses of the wind/solar potential in Australia. His work is very detailed and predicts blackouts even in the land of sunshine. (https://chrisbond.substack.com/p/rest-of-australia-future)

God knows what we Scots will have to suffer.

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Overhead At Docksat's avatar

The cloud layer has produced that effect you get in the mountains where there is no mist but it feels like you are walking in mist. You feel tiny little pickles of water but the air is clear enough.

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Jaime Jessop's avatar

For the past few days here, there has actually been a fine mist, constant drizzle with virtually no wind. Dank and miserable. It's got drier now though.

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