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Is this a mile stone or a mill stone misspelled?

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The pyro pedobanksters laugh

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Aug 17, 2023Liked by Jaime Jessop

This might be more enlightening:

"5 years ago today, a false missile alert threw Hawaii into a panic

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In the years since the false alert, there were investigations and a host of changes made in hopes of preventing a similar mistake.

A year after the alert, Tom Travis, the then-administrator of HI-EMA, told Hawaii News Now that “all of the ballistic missile alarms have been shelved.”

That includes emergency alerts via cell phone and outdoor emergency sirens, he said."

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2023/01/13/its-been-5-years-since-hawaiis-false-missile-alert-that-caused-panic-statewide/

That last line is very telling indeed.

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Aug 17, 2023Liked by Jaime Jessop

Time to buy shares in tin foil manufacturers, Jaime!

Although in some cases something more impermeable might be needed, such as 12 gauge builders' lead flashing, full head coverage with a gas tight seal around the neck.

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Aug 17, 2023Liked by Jaime Jessop

Always appreciate your sane critiques. However, this one doesn't really say *why* this might have been done as a psyop. Residents interviewed did say they were prevented from leaving, and water was turned off (or did it just run out?) Were they plants? Just one offs where it didn't happen to the larger group? A book being published a day before a disaster IS consonant with a worldview that does not operate on meritocracy. So, while I really appreciate this article, for me the question is still open, and needs more alt media peer review (now that mainstream science is no longer science, and does not do real peer review.). Also, the Governor swooped in within days with a plan to turn Maui into his green police state. Maybe it is just coincidence that it happened, but maybe not. Just like 9/11 and the pre-written Patriot Act, funny how that was all in place within a very short period. And if the pre-published book is a psyop, it's a bad one, and most people will only hear the book was pre-published, and nothing more, and thus have suspicions aroused. The Deep State follow up calling out these folks as rubes will be missed by people that are simply too busy. So, if this is the case, the Deep State is too clever by half.

And now is it that that police lead guy was also the lead guy for the Las Vegas mass murders a decade or so ago? Just another coinky dink? This is publicly available info.

So, always love the push back on this site, so why I read it. But I think there are still some unanswered questions that in all due respect, I don't think were answered here. But this is with the deepest respect for Jaime, all she does, and the very important work she does providing rational, reasoned push back she does on a regular basis. I just think this one was more light on facts and longer on ad hominem would be my respectful critique.

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I very much appreciate that reply. I am very happy to provoke reasoned pushback on my pushback. That's how we move forward and hopefully start to get at the truth. Hopefully, we will get more solid information re. the alleged behaviour of the police and the alleged turning off of the water, because they are very serious issues. I did read earlier that there were electricity poles fallen across the road, so perhaps the police were stopping residents for their own safety? We need more info on this.

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Aug 17, 2023Liked by Jaime Jessop

Merci. Listening to Jeffrey Prather today, who, as you probably know was a former special forces guy and DEA agent, turned whistle blower, he felt that DEW was, in fact, used. So, as you say, we need more examination.

And yes, interesting note about poles across the road. Were police stopping people for their own safety, unaware that they were instead condemning them to death?

But this Pelletier dude going from Las Vegas to this... that just doesn't smell right. One fellow I trust implicitly is Anthony Watts. HIs take on the issue here https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/08/16/the-real-cause-of-the-maui-wildfire-disaster/

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Thanks for the link to Mr. Watts take on this.

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There are videos of downed power lines before the fire. This DEW nonsense is getting old fast. In the wind conditions that day there was no need for anything bigger than a single Zippo. They are saying that the feds went hunting for mice with an elephant gun. Someone has been watching too much Tom and Jerry.

If it was arson, a zippo would accomplish what happened there.

So yes, there were power lines down. It was reported that water pressure was lost with melted water lines in building be suspected as a cause. Before I even learned of the reports of water being shut off I saw an after fire video on IG that did not focus on it, but did show water flowing out of a broken pipe in what was once a home.

There is more that enough stupidity and incompetence in the authorities’ actions prior to, during and after to answer all the question when coupled with the wind and a single spark (intentional or not) to create exactly what we see in Maui.

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Yes, the downed power lines (live) were in the area (overgrown by grasses) where the morning fire started. They were very likely the cause of the first blaze. Apparently, the power was then turned off, so the second, afternoon blaze which started nearby, might not have been sparked by power lines. It could have been reignited by glowing embers from the first fire I guess or it could still be arson. Either way, we don't need microwave/laser weapons aboard satellites or aircraft to explain what killed hundreds, maybe over a thousand Lahaina residents.

https://mises.org/wire/thanks-government-mauis-lahaina-fire-became-deadly-conflagration

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Another point that shocks me. Coming from my navy back ground, fire main pumps are on the vital electrical circuit aboard a US naval ship. We can lose power to the gun mounts and most everything else but still have power for the fire pumps. I am shocked that the reason they lost fire fighting water is because shutting power to downed lines also shut of power to the city’s fire pumps. In faucing believable. Is this common civil engineering practice? Lord, I hope not. Seems like grotesque incompetence to me. Downed power lines are a known source of fire, so lets set up a circuit where when we have to kill power to downed power lines we also kill power too the pumps needed to fight the fire the downed power lines caused. Stupidity and incompetence. Someone should write a sling about these two evil siblings infesting our government.

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Just read the article the link takes me to. It proves that Global Warming was the cause. The overpaid underworked paycheck drawing noload mother fauciers will never allow blame to settle where it should, upon their shoulders. Thus, global warming.

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If caused by an improperly overhauled first fire, then the fire team is incompetent. But, as we have seen, plenty of that to go around in this episode. Ignorance and incompetence accounts for most accidents. When a few evil opportunistic individuals are near by, then accidents can become true catastrophes. I think that is the case here.

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What did I miss here? David seems to be calling this propaganda piece for what it is?

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David writes: 'This was pre-planned'. The tweet got over a million views and thousands of shares. Did he mean the book was pre-planned? If so, how did the author/publisher know that the Hawaii fires would happen? Did he mean that the fires were pre-planned? It just invites too much speculation. And once again, it gives the 'fact-checkers' a chance to 'debunk' the claims of conspiracy theorists. David is letting himself be drawn into this web of conspiracist thinking. Here he speculates on deliberate arson (a real possibility) but then goes on to talk about the possibility of DEWs, why some buildings were left intact etc. and he definitely thinks the fires were deliberate whatever the case. this is bad news if even David Kurten is having his normally very sound judgement clouded by such outlandish speculation.

https://article.wn.com/view-bitchute/2023/08/14/Maui_fire_Direct_Energy_Weapons_David_Kurten_almost_connects/

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Aug 17, 2023Liked by Jaime Jessop

I sincerely appreciate your take on this. Attempting to understand genuine conspiracies (noting well that the vast majority of criminal acts -- such as murder, theft, fraud -- are committed by more than one person working together; the very definition of a criminal conspiracy) from fanciful & fantastic conspiratorial thinking/hypothesizing requires discernment, Discernment, DISCERNment.

It’s extremely intellectually complex and difficult, but possible.

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Aug 17, 2023Liked by Jaime Jessop

The fact is that the State (what Thomas Hobbes called “the Leviathan” and “the Mortal God”) is at war with the masses. The vast majority of the members of the mass are stupidly loyal to the State. A minority of the members of the mass understand the nature of the State. For a decent description of the nature of the State, see https://winteroak.org.uk/2023/07/25/the-mortal-gods-drops-its-mask/

A minority within the minority of those who understand that they/we are enemies of the State are aware that the State is an idol and that worshiping idols (by giving idols our loyalty) is a covenant with spiritual death and hell.

How does the State maintain its rule? Divide and conquer. Speculating about the fire that wiped out Lahaina is divisive, just the way the psychopathic rulers (aka the pathocrats) like it to be. They are laughing at our divisive rhetorical speculations, but writing about these devils laughing at us is whipping a dead horse. It doesn’t matter. The divisive rhetorical speculation isn’t about to cease anytime soon.

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Aug 17, 2023·edited Aug 17, 2023Liked by Jaime Jessop

My first thought was AI churned out, something I have mentioned on Twatter but most failed at the first logical hurdle. David, who I also follow, does seem to have a habit of doing this.

I'm reminded of the Mencken quote;

"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."

In this case the populace are so alarmed and clamourous to be led to safety, that they make up their own imaginary hobgoblins. Hardly surprising with all the conditioning and nudging these past few decades but inexcusable.

To throw another reference in, the end of The Devil's Advocate (1997) comes to mind;

"Kevin, now aware of what will happen should he cross examine the victim, announces that he cannot represent his client despite the threat of disbarment. Kevin's reporter friend Larry offers him a high-profile interview, promising to make him famous. Encouraged by Mary Ann, Kevin agrees. After they leave, Larry transforms into Milton, who breaks the fourth wall and declares, "Vanity—definitely my favorite sin."

I do recall 'the right' being early proponents of pushing the fear of the plandemic and from what I can see nothing has changed. As Cliff Mass showed the truth is rather more mundane but the grand conspiracy narrative appeals rather than the lower level 'conspiracy' of corruption, ineptitude and opportunism that always cultivates such events - useless politician blames CC to evade responsibility for their own policies or lack of action before the event c.f. Californian fires, Somerset floods, Venice floods etc. The whole bloody climate conspiracy is in plain view since the 1970s, they've even said outright they will use such events and we have ample evidence, direct quotes, of using events to push an agenda/narrative especially so during the plandemic where they said they want to use the covid framework for climate - there is absolutely no need to fall for, or create, hobgoblins when the demons in our midst make themselves so well known to us.

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The simplest way to get away with atrocities is to announce them well in advance. Those who hear you think you are a crack pot and pay you no heed. When you get caught doing what would be considered horrible crimes on their own, the public only laughs as they are nothing compared to your announced grandiose plans. When you finally get your final plans rolling they will never accept that they foolishly allowed you to get away with and thus will never let themselves believe you actually are as atrocious as you said in the beginning all those years ago.

However, if you do not make such claims in the beginning, at some point you will be stopped due to the horrific nature of the more minor crimes.

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Aug 17, 2023·edited Aug 17, 2023

Thermite, a mixture of metal powder and metal oxide, is the hottest burning man-made substance in the world. It burns at temperatures of more than 2,200C, enough to burn through steel or asphalt. On human flesh, it can burn down to the bone

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How to make "THERMITE" explosive with aluminum-powder & beach-sand: How to ignite it and destroy your own home, country, or whatever

Thermite, a mixture of metal powder and metal oxide, is the hottest burning man-made substance in the world. It burns at temperatures of more than 2,200C, enough to burn through steel or asphalt. On human flesh, it can burn down to the bone

Days before the fire locals were doing videos showing rain aluminum foil powder from the sky

On the day of fire all they would need is a microwave equipped plane to fly over and and generate a high-power microwave RF and "BOOM" all that aluminum would explode just like "THERMITE" which burns at 4500F, (2200C) hot enough to melt all metals

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I agree space lasers and this dumb photo are bullshit, but the aluminum foil did rain down all over the area days before the fires;

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People shouldn't even write about DEW - Direct Energy Weapons, because you think its alien technology from space, this is stuff that has been around since pre WW2 when USA developed RADAR, which is just high-frequency RF waves, and even in 1940's they knew that High-Power RF would cause aluminum&magnesium powders on the ground to violently explode and even make steel hot enough to burn

Have you ever ran an oxy-acetelyene torch and burned "IRON" It burns just like paper when hot enough

https://rumble.com/v36dyl2-maui-fires-directed-energy-weapons-and-geoengineering.html

Here is the video, watch it, they don't know what they're seeing but what they're explaining is all the weird things leading up to the big fire day. In this video you can clearly see the aluminum-foil powder falling on the car windows while driving in town

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Experiment, take a handful of aluminum, but in a high speed coffee grinder and make into a 'white powder' not put on a piece of paper in the microwave and turn on, you will get an explosion not enough to blow the door off the microwave, but a large burst flames;

Now imagine an entire town dusted with this shit, and a plane flys over with high-powered microwave, and all that material ignites, and recall that when it mixes with iron-oxide(rust power), or silicon-oxide (sand) it can form "THERMITE", the winds could have led to 'drifts' of material so when it was ignited there would have been hot-spots with continous burning.

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Maui Fires - Directed Energy Weapons and Geoengineering

The destruction and loss of life that occurred on 8/8/2023 on Maui is simply too devastating to be passed off as “natural”. The truth is this was far from natural! In this video I will explain why I b

Silicon-Dioxide ( common beach sand ) in powder form from winds, combined with aluminum powder like dusted on Maui day before the fire becomes “THERMITE” an explosive that is so hot when its burning that it melts steel and burns it.

Experiment: Silicon Dioxide Thermite

thehomescientist.blogspot<dot>com

The silicon dioxide I used was common beach sand. ... ground it down to a finer powder in a mortar and pestile, and mixed it into thermite.

https://rumble.com/v36dyl2-maui-fires-directed-energy-weapons-and-geoengineering.html

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I call BS.

In order to create thermite it is necessary for the aluminium not only very finely divided - much finer than can be created with kitchen utensils - in order to produce the necessary surface area to volume ratio, but also to have been created and stored in an oxygen-free environment to prevent a layer of aluminium oxide forming on the surface of the particles.

If not, it won't work.

Nor will it work with sand, the reaction is: Fe2O3 + 2 Al → 2 Fe + Al2O3, which is why it is used for welding tram lines in situ, being held in a clay pot and ignited with a length of magnesium ribbon to reach a sufficiently high temperature to start the reaction.

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SInce your a pathetic moron who doesn't read, only cuts&pastes shit from the wiki

I will offer you in the video format

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AKqzL2Y0rs

How to make 'thermite' from aluminum and beach-sand, and note GOD has his own kitchen-utensils called time&wind

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Oh, there is video! Must be true.

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Bullshit, obviously you haven't done it, mortar&grinder

Just a fucking coffee-grinder,

God make powderized sand from sand on the beach blowing around grinding there is always powdered sand near the beaches its stuff that sticks to your skin.

FUCK your formula, any metals like Alum or magnesium burn when made into a powder, an metallic-oxide when added in powdered form become 'thermite'

I already know what you are, I just suggest to other they google "How to make thermite at home in the kitchen" there are 100's of books online;

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Most of us kids our first thermite is by using 'sparklers' where are mostly powdered aluminum, scraping it off, and then putting some iron steel wool in vinegar over night to get iron-oxide (rust), mix the sparkler powder&rust powder ( when dry), then use a sparkler to ignite your THERMITE

OF course you can also IGNITE by just putting in microwave over, or asking a GOV AIRMAN to fly over your house and blast some high-power RF on your "Thermite"

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The point here is that eyewitnesses saw powdered aluminum falling form sky the day before fires, that alum could have easily fixed on the ground with sand-powder that is always in drift near the beaches, especially dry beaches like Lahina

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Twaddle.

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Aug 18, 2023·edited Aug 18, 2023

Suck horse penis, choke on it, and DIE.

I'm done with you.

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I don't believe in 'content moderation', but this language is pretty extreme and offensive and AFAICT not really justified. Please try to be a bit more respectful of other people's opinions, that's all I ask.

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Presumably the US billionaires in NZ will be relocating to Maui.

https://www.dw.com/en/new-zealand-the-ideal-spot-to-ride-out-the-apocalypse/a-58826995

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The Miles Stones account just gets Chat GPT to write entire books on items in the news, and quickly upload them to amazon. There are something like 50 books already many of them are biographies "The Story of...."

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Related to Georgia G. Stones no doubt... Effective land clearance of the third highest priced land in the world with billionaires racing to buy... Just a natural phenomenon, happens all the time, nothing to see... Move along.

Climate change!

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You literally can't make this stuff up. Is art imitating life or is life imitating art. Bottom line: there are no coincidences when it comes to disasters. They're all precisely planned.

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