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Tom Hamilton's avatar

Abortion, at any stage, is ALWAYS premeditated murder.

Now, from time to time, many people will rationalize murdering someone. It’s only natural.

But innocent little babies? Wow. That’s some kind of psychopath.

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Jeremy Poynton's avatar

Lose God and the sacred, lose everything that matters.

God help us

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Douglas Brodie's avatar

AI has its uses for factual questions. ChatGPT quickly confirmed that 379 MPs voted in favour of clause 1. I then asked how many Lib Dems and it said 63. Not quite all 72 as supported the Climate and Nature Bill earlier this year which if enacted would have very quickly taken the country back to dystopian Medieval living conditions but enough to confirm that these people are unthinking anti-humanity puppets to their globalist paymasters.

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Dollyboy's avatar

Some people think it's not a person until it's out.

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Jeremy Poynton's avatar

Well they are wrong. And "person"? Uh? Spirit enters at the moment of conception; life begins then; being begins then.

Person?

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Dollyboy's avatar

Well they would say you are wrong and it isn't a person until born.

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Dollyboy's avatar

Say what you like but the start of life is when a human is born, that's so obvious. Anyone with a brain would know that. That's what they would say.

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Jeremy Poynton's avatar

They? Who are "they"? No, don't bother.

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Dollyboy's avatar

I'll give you a hint - "they" just passed a law.

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Jeremy Poynton's avatar

They can say what they like. Conception is the start of life. That's beyond obvious to anyone with a brain.

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Dollyboy's avatar

Anyone with a brain knows its when a baby is born.

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Azra Dale's avatar

I was absolutely horrified reading your post. Since you hadn't included the link for the video clip of her speaking I looked on X to find it. I then found an article written by her which provides some context which made me ponder the issue more. This is an excerpt:

"Earlier this month, in a nondescript courtroom in the outer reaches of west London, 45-year-old Nicola Packer was found not guilty of having an illegal abortion. The unanimous decision by the jury marked the end of a traumatic, years-long saga. If Packer had been convicted of “unlawfully administering to herself a poison or other noxious thing” with the “intent to procure a miscarriage”, she could have faced life in prison.

"Packer had taken abortion medications at home in November 2020, when reproductive health clinics were closed due to the pandemic. The mifepristone and misoprostol pills were prescribed by a registered provider over the phone, and Packer says she had no idea she was around 26 weeks pregnant when she took them. Her body hadn’t changed significantly; her endometriosis diagnosis meant her periods were often irregular. (In England, Scotland and Wales, 24 weeks is the legal limit for abortions, except in very rare circumstances; the cut-off for terminating a pregnancy at home is 10 weeks.) When Packer went to hospital the day after delivering the foetus at home, a member of staff called the police. Packer was arrested and spent the next four years waiting for her case to go to trial."

Source: https://www.stylist.co.uk/news/politics/abortion-decriminalisation-tonia-antoniazzi/989335

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Jaime Jessop's avatar

One isolated and not very representative example of somebody exceeding the legal abortion limit by 2 weeks and having to endure a glacially slow legal process in order to defend herself in court. The jury found her innocent - which was probably a good decision. But it's right that she had to face a jury of her peers, wrong that it took so damned long. One example which doesn't make the case for killing babies just days or even hours before they are ready to take their first breath.

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Azra Dale's avatar

I agree with you Jaime.

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Chris Hossack's avatar

There is something discompassionately wicked about these people

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