I’ve seen enough, I’ve heard enough. This dark fantasy of a worldwide spraying operation intended to pollute the air we breathe, modify our weather and climate and contaminate the earth’s soil and water has become aggressively pervasive and is almost as insane as man-made global warming. But it’s gaining traction in some surprising places.
I've heard some interesting theories about this being a way to recycle (get rid of) chemical waste. And there was a time, maybe late 90's or early 2000's? when the composition of JT8 jet fuel was changed quite dramatically.
This might not even be as nefarious as it might seem. They think this is the best thing to do with the access chemicals.
In regards to the humidity changes at altitude thus the long persistent contrails as someone mentioned.... Why did this not seem to be happening in the 80's and 70's. They were just normal contrails back then.
There could be any number of mundane explanations as to why persistent contrails were *apparently* not as persistent in the 70s and 80s. These alternative explanations have not been thoroughly explored in my opinion and the chemtrail conspiracy explanation is gaining huge popularity, so they're probably not going to be explored other than by a few die-hard sceptics.
I agree and I'm glad you are addressing this. I have always believed something more is going on with this, but I've never been able to nail it down.
I've put most my effort over the years into weather modification/geo engineering. See Jim Lee's amazing work https://climateviewer.com/
And reading through the 1978 Senate Report on Weather Mod. They knew it was a huge issue back then and it's been going on for decades. There are companies now dedicated to messing with the weather. https://archive.org/details/WeatherModification_201511
But I know this does not address your valid point. But it's not easy to delineate between the many overt weather mod programs and chemtrails. But I have watched in Vancouver Canada, a persistent contrail/chemtrail over the city, spread out come right down slowly and turn into a haze. I don't think that used to happen.
It does indeed seem strange that the globalists would destroy their own health just to cull the masses. However, I try not to apply basic logic to psychopaths. Also, if the weather CAN be manipulated by things like HAARP, then, unlike msm stories about using such technology to help decrease global warming, I would assume TPTB would use it to f things up in order to convince more people that we are in a climate emergency.
I’m still trying to navigate all the streams of information with regard to the psyops and apparent attempts at culling the population.
Thank you SO much for helping with fantastic content and your ability to separate science from propaganda and correctly interpret the information for us!
Pardon me but it seems to be the case that you have not seen enough and have not heard enough. A lot of information can be found on the website Our Geoengineering Age: https://www.ourgeoengineeringage.org/
I have seen enough and heard enough to prompt me to dig much deeper and investigate thoroughly these claims of a world wide chemical spraying operation so thank you for the link.
Skipping through the 'science' section very briefly, I now see that 'chemtrails' are said to be composed primarily of aerosolised toxic coal fly ash. This is at odds with other geo-engineering sites. But supposing it is true. my immediate questions are:
(a) Is this toxic aerosolised coal fly ash being deliberately injected into the stratosphere by aircraft?
(b) If not, then I presume it is coming from the industrial burning of coal, but then how do emissions of coal fly ash released into the lowest layers of the troposphere find their way into the stratosphere?
Injected. This essay Origins of the ‘Climate Change’ Threat to National Security – and the Geoengineering Response provides lots of info of the history of geoengineering.
---- And then, as if on cue, in June 1991 Earth conducted a geoengineering experiment of her own, as Earth is wont to do every decade or so, one that would later be described as a prime example of “stratospheric aerosol geoengineering” or what the geoengineers now refer to as “the Pinatubo Option.” [27]
According to the US Geological Survey, the Philippine island of Luzon’s Mt. Pinatubo ejected 20 million tons of sulfur dioxide into the stratosphere, more than 1 cubic mile of material that rose in an ash cloud 22 miles into the air and caused global temperatures to drop from 1991 to 1993 by about 1° F (0.5° C). [28]
Geoengineers ever since have looked to the 1991 Pinatubo explosion as their inspirational lodestar, incontrovertible proof that stratospheric aerosols can cool the planet abruptly. But only for one or two years, or as long as the ejected aerosols stay aloft. Otherwise a Pinatubo-size volcano would have to erupt every other year — or planes spray more or less continuously -----
Must say that i am glad that this is finally coming into focus in a much wider group of people. Thank you for writing about it Jaime Jessop and diving deeper to find out even more about it.
I enjoy and value your work, especially in gleaning a perspective across the pond! However, I am surprised at the hand waving of a very real and admitted to action by nation’s around the world. I understand your desire to avoid the toxic ‘conspiracist’ label, but SAI is very real, and very important to your antagonists’ plans.
You have, of course seen Biden’s executive order, posted many times in these comments. You are, of course aware of Trey Gates involvement, funding (and now of GMO ‘squiter and malaria fame, this guy never stops, yeehaw!). Perhaps, you saw Mexico had enough of private companies (read 3 letter agency contractors from a northerly neighbor) spraying their skies and banned all stratospheric aerosol spraying? https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/green-tech/a42624183/mexico-bans-solar-geoengineering/
Are you unfamiliar with Dane Wiggington and Geoengineeringwatch? I’m 40/60 on controlled op/gatekeeper scale with him, but he has physically sampled persistent contrails and water and soil samples all over California for the last two decades. But. the best two hour investment may actually be the Shasta County hearings of a few years back. Scientists, Doctors, Pilots, a series of experts in 5 minute bursts.
Why you should take an interest in this and dig a little deeper? I noticed a few years ago studies started saying night was warming faster than day. Turns out 100% of the claimed increase in temps over the last two decades has happened at night. Daytime average temps have barely budged. There is a Wiley analysis I am struggling to find as I doze off finishing this comment, but there are many studies explaining the warming effect of trapping that radiative heat from ‘persistent contrail formation’. Since the doom model projections never pan out, do t you think the round table group had to do something?
You’re an astute mind, check out the composition of coal fly ash before you check out the samples provided by Wiggington and the scientists at Shasta. I posit we are watching flouride 2.0, and expensive Rockefeller waste product turned for a benevolent (read deadly) public good. John Brennan, as director of the CIA in 2016 was extolling its virtues for its “16x reflective capabilities versus sulfur dioxide”.
So, we have this waste, it costs billions a year to treat and store. We have this climate, it will not warm fast enough to scare the people into bugs and killing themselves. You must also know there would be other tertiary benefits to this crowd by depriving us poors of sunlight, no need to speculate further here.
Please take a stronger and longer look. You are missing a critical piece of the climate scam by ignoring the largest tool and program in their arsenal!
I am looking deeper. I'm not seeing any real, tangible, irrefutable evidence of the injection of chemical substances into the stratosphere by commercial jets operating globally. Wiggington's GeoEngineering site is a bit of a joke quite frankly. Weather modification is real but it should not be conflated with the existence of an alleged world wide conspiracy to pollute the stratosphere with toxic chemicals for the purpose of reducing or enhancing global warming (chemtrail enthusiasts seem to be a little confused as to which) and/or precipitating 'ecological collapse'.
Has anyone taken an airplane equipped with air sampling analytical equipment and measured anything in "chemtrails" ? Levels of emissions would be highest in fresh trails, and would be a unequivocal proof of shitbaggery. Funny, I have not seen anything providing such proof.
We need to see the actual chemical analysis of the air samples and we need to know exactly what altitude those samples were taken at. Where is that information? Geo-engineering Watch do not appear to link to it. All we have are slick youtube videos telling us that they got hold of a NOAA plane and used the air sampling lab aboard. This is not enough. We need to see the actual results of the chemical analyses performed, written up in a scientific paper.
There are many test results here, as well as the prior mentioned plane test, which the results are shown fully in the documentary. As far as asking for peer reviewed and published literature, I dunno, how many ‘climate change is a financial enslavement scam studies have we seen in journals lately?
The best way to deal with it is... not to give it much attention. There's nothing wrong with addressing the questions you proposed but beyond that just realizing the narrative's purpose is to derail attention and energy from say..... I dunno..... the Vax induced iatrogenocide?
That may be so, and I have ignored the chemtrail theories for some time now, but the people promoting them are becoming more insistent and the ideas are now spreading beyond just a dedicated few. Chemtrail conspiracy theories are fast becoming mainstream in the online anti-establishment community and there is a worrying lack of critical thinking evident in those who are promoting them as real.
The problem for the chemtrail obsessive brigade is that contrails are not a recent phenomenon but were highly prevalent during the Second World War, especially over Southern England during the Battle of Britain and daylight bombing of Germany by USAAF Fortresses and Liberators from around 1943 onwards.
It is hard to imagine anyone having the time or inclination to waste their time, energy and resources on such questionable pursuit when there was a war to be won.
Oh, and you might want to educate yourself on how the spraying works. When I talked about the crown decline in trees, I am not talking about the chemical sprays doing that directly as the government did with agent orange in Vietnam. The aluminum and plastic nano particles do, in fact, reach the ground and contaminate the soil. You might want to read about how aluminum in the soil can prevent trees from absorbing water and, thus, have the same effect as a drought has on the trees.
Some say that bark beetles have always been with us. They say that now the compromised trees cannot survive the beetles' infestations and become dried out tinder because of drought because they can't absorb water. The biggest fire in NM (350,000 acres) was started by a prescribed burn by the US Forest Service during the windiest time of the year. Orders from US Forest Service in D.C. Forest Service Employees for Environmental Ethics is a good group to consult about these issues. They are not on the Greta Thunberg train. Almost nothing is black and white and simple, unfortunately.
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Can't speak for bark beattles in Canada. In the US it is primarily caused by fire suppression leading to much thicker and higher undergrowth, exasperating mature trees water shortage in times of drought.
I have never seen an engineering quality study on how contrails in California could have a major impact on massive weather systems formed over millions of square miles of the pacific, thousands of miles away, that, in the end, deliver very predictable amounts of percipitaion.
The bark beetles in New Mexico were particularly bad in the foothills that have not been fire-prone. And if you see the areas where the bark beetles attacked the pinons and junipers, you will not see much in the way of undergrowth.
Contrails are not the problem. There is a difference between contrails and deliberate spraying of chemicals. The chem trails are world wide and are over the oceans. Check this out, please. But believe whatever you want.
Ground fires, conducted regularly, burn off forest detritus before it has time to reach levels of forest litter capable of producing high temperatures.
Infrequent ground fires, burning years of accumulated forest litter and deadfall reach high temperatures that can kill adult trees and kill much of the soil life, living or dormant. When fire has been absurdly suppressed for over 100 years and entire communities are wiped out These dangerous ground fires often reach into and ignite tree crowns. Resulting fire driven wind storms turn every pile of burning matter into high temperature furnaces.
The native americans of the eastern states of the US thought controlled seasonal burning a good idea , according to a Penn State researcher :
-“Eastern forests shaped more by Native Americans’ burning than climate change”-
I talked about weather anomalies. I am not talking about climate change or lack thereof.
I've talked to the director of Forest Service Employees for Environmental Ethics. They have been truly horrified by the prescribed burns in New Mexico. One of them the Cerro Grande fire was impinging on the Los Alamos National Laboratory storage units. The bomb factory. I don't have to tell you what their storage units might contain. Look for Concerned Citizens for Nuclear Safety to find out. The most recent in 2022 burned 350,000 acres of gorgeous forest and resulted in the spraying of fire retardant and other chemicals onto the burn. This washed down with subsequent storms(!) into the water supplies and soil rendering the local farmers who had farmed these areas for 400 years unable to plant or raise viable crops. They are slowly recovering. The FSEEE folks say that it is not reasonable to expect that what works well in Eastern and Southeastern forests will work in dry (formerly about 10 inches of rain per year in the areas I speak about) forests with different soil compositions in the Southwest. FSEEE publishes a magazine that gives me some hope. They were instrumental in having the Forest Service people in D.C. call a moratorium on prescribed burns especially during the extreme windy time when they are usually set. Unfortunately, the forest service is back to prescribing burns. You might want to look at some of what FSEEE publishes. They're a very reasonable group.
Jul 10, 2023·edited Jul 10, 2023Liked by Jaime Jessop
of course the beetles have been with us. the question is what has turned them into the feeding frenzy that's decimating the forests. Climate Change fanatics says it's climate change. But I agree with you, it's complex, and we probably don't know and maybe will not know the answer.
Regarding the fires, we know that at least 84% of wildfires are human caused. What's going on in Canada seems very suspicious: A couple dozen wildfires all started the same day in Quebec. The day was sunny and clear, no lightning, so they were obviously human caused. And because there were so many in one day, the conclusion I come to is it was planned by a group of people.
I am embarrassed to say I don't know how to load my photos onto your substack, but if you give me your email address, I can send them. However, I am MAD, MAD, INSANE. I did use critical thinking to question the narrative on covid and I have not had any shots. Lost "friends" because of my stance. Now I am losing "friends" because of my stance on chem trails.
I am not sure why you are so adamant about not investigating the possibility of chemical spraying because, after all, you do reject global climate change and covid. I am not sure how you can reject weather anomalies such as snow in Los Angeles, tornadoes on the top of mountains in Montana, monsoon season changing from July and August to April, May, and June in New Mexico. There are many more anomalies from all over the world. I do not say they are a result of climate change. I observe and research and come up with the idea that something is happening and I suspect that climate mitigation is and has been for decades the cause of such anomalies.
Perhaps you have a better, more satisfactory answer.
What I don't understand is that you, as a critical thinker, dismiss the possibility of chem trails without wanting to investigate. You seem to accept all the establishment, authoritarian dictates that this is conspiracy theory. How did you come to your conclusions regarding covid and climate change? Just wondering.
Unusual weather is normal, and there has not been an increase of it. Snow in LA always happens, every so often. This years calif snow was the result of massive air pressure systems and jet stream flow over millions of sq miles of ocean, leading to highly predictable reuslts 10 days later.
I do not dismiss chem trails, and a possible minor effect on weather, but that is all they are capable of.
I noticed in our local propaganda rag several years ago before I cancelled my subscription that the jet stream had changed. NM at that time was getting a lot more rain than usual and California was in unusually (operative word) serious drought. At that time I knew nothing about the machinations of chemical spraying or HAARP. Just thought it was weird that the jet stream had changed. I haven't looked lately, but I buy into everything you say haha.
Nope, just been reading for 20 plus years, Reading hundreds of peer review papers, articles and debates by meterologists, and disparate experts. (hundreds of hours of reading both sides) Climate is extremely chaotic, and other then modest local effects, there is likely very little they could do, and if they were actually playing with the enegy levels needed, (they are not) the effects could easily, and likely would run in completely unanticiapated directions.
Although I read and research, I am not a meteorologist. However just for you information, and I will leave it at that, I was a data analyst in the meteorology division at Los Alamos National Lab, the bomb factory. I am aware of what can and cannot be done.
I am not dismissing the possibility of chemtrails whilst refusing to investigate. I have done some basic research and I find I am more persuaded by the 'contrail' explanation of these aircraft trails than by the deliberate chemical spraying explanations. I also find that many of the claims made by chemtrail advocates are inconsistent and don't stand up to close scrutiny. But I'm now going to look a lot closer at the whole issue and start writing about it on this Substack because as I say, the chemtrail issue is starting to become very pervasive and for that reason it should be looked into a lot more closely.
If you email me through Substack initially, I'll then reply and then you can send me photos directly to my private email. It's just that I've been getting a lot of spam recently and don't want to publish my actual email address just in case. Thanks.
I live in a rural area, not under any flight paths. Yet, see parallel lines across the sky which widen and turn the sky a murky, milky overcast. Is to cut out solar radiation the goal of govt. supported geoengineering? I have solar panels; it's winter downunder.
Jul 10, 2023·edited Jul 10, 2023Liked by Jaime Jessop
contrails are a function of the moisture content of the upper atmosphere. On days when the upper atmosphere is very dry, contrails will disappear almost immediately. If the upper atmosphere has more moisture, contrails will persist longer. Their duration is a function of the humidity of the air at 35,000 feet where the jets are flying. So on some days you look up and see NO contrails and then a few days later, the sky has contrails crisscrossing all over the place, so you think, Aha! There! See they are spraying today. No, the upper atmosphere has high humidity today. Remember, at any given point in time there are hundreds of commercial jets in US airspace, so when it's humid up there, you're going to see contrails. Doesn't mean they are NOT spraying something somewhere. But using contrails as proof is a red herring.
I didn't state the obvious: When jet fuel burns, you get CO2 and H2O. It's the H2o precipitating out as water or ice that makes the contrail, just as water vapor in the atmosphere forms fog, clouds, or ice crystals when it encounters a cold air mass.
You don’t even need products of combustion or altitude. Here is a clip showing the phenomena near the ground, you can even see how they fill the chem trail tanks before takeoff. 😉
Jul 10, 2023·edited Jul 12, 2023Liked by Jaime Jessop
...and claiming the worst in the wrong area, only distracts from the definite very real issues.
I wrote this in my about post on my substacke,
"...when one is taking a contrary to the narrative position, one is at a disadvantage based on the inescapable reality that every other possible perspective is loaded into the skeptics position, thus your view, no matter how rational, is part of the everything else “denier” camp. You deny GHGs have any possible warming. You deny viruses are real. You are a Moon landing denier, and a “conspiracy theorist”. You are lumped with “them” and often effectively marginalized.
This is why I do not address things like chem-trails, or weather modifications, or the position that there is no greenhouse effect, or the possible US cause of 911, or the “viruses are not real” position. They may, or may not be supportable, but they are in a losing position, (a minority even within the skeptics camp) and often a distracting position from the main issues affecting policy and destroying nations and lives. So, as I have not committed the time and effort required to have a position on those rare views, I leave them be. (“Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.”)
That is why I wrote this below article on Global Warming, to, as articulately as I am able, tackle the issue from every important policy affecting perspective. Take a look, and you will see that the linked article is a far more effective red pill then climate change via contrails. Also I have noticed that many contrail advocates, accept that extreme climate is on a large upswing, and this is simply not true as the linked article proves...https://anderdaa7.substack.com/p/global-warming?utm_source=substack&utm_campaign=post_embed&utm_medium=web
I've heard some interesting theories about this being a way to recycle (get rid of) chemical waste. And there was a time, maybe late 90's or early 2000's? when the composition of JT8 jet fuel was changed quite dramatically.
This might not even be as nefarious as it might seem. They think this is the best thing to do with the access chemicals.
In regards to the humidity changes at altitude thus the long persistent contrails as someone mentioned.... Why did this not seem to be happening in the 80's and 70's. They were just normal contrails back then.
There could be any number of mundane explanations as to why persistent contrails were *apparently* not as persistent in the 70s and 80s. These alternative explanations have not been thoroughly explored in my opinion and the chemtrail conspiracy explanation is gaining huge popularity, so they're probably not going to be explored other than by a few die-hard sceptics.
I agree and I'm glad you are addressing this. I have always believed something more is going on with this, but I've never been able to nail it down.
I've put most my effort over the years into weather modification/geo engineering. See Jim Lee's amazing work https://climateviewer.com/
And reading through the 1978 Senate Report on Weather Mod. They knew it was a huge issue back then and it's been going on for decades. There are companies now dedicated to messing with the weather. https://archive.org/details/WeatherModification_201511
But I know this does not address your valid point. But it's not easy to delineate between the many overt weather mod programs and chemtrails. But I have watched in Vancouver Canada, a persistent contrail/chemtrail over the city, spread out come right down slowly and turn into a haze. I don't think that used to happen.
sorry for all the 'buts'.
It does indeed seem strange that the globalists would destroy their own health just to cull the masses. However, I try not to apply basic logic to psychopaths. Also, if the weather CAN be manipulated by things like HAARP, then, unlike msm stories about using such technology to help decrease global warming, I would assume TPTB would use it to f things up in order to convince more people that we are in a climate emergency.
I’m still trying to navigate all the streams of information with regard to the psyops and apparent attempts at culling the population.
Thank you SO much for helping with fantastic content and your ability to separate science from propaganda and correctly interpret the information for us!
Pardon me but it seems to be the case that you have not seen enough and have not heard enough. A lot of information can be found on the website Our Geoengineering Age: https://www.ourgeoengineeringage.org/
I have seen enough and heard enough to prompt me to dig much deeper and investigate thoroughly these claims of a world wide chemical spraying operation so thank you for the link.
Skipping through the 'science' section very briefly, I now see that 'chemtrails' are said to be composed primarily of aerosolised toxic coal fly ash. This is at odds with other geo-engineering sites. But supposing it is true. my immediate questions are:
(a) Is this toxic aerosolised coal fly ash being deliberately injected into the stratosphere by aircraft?
(b) If not, then I presume it is coming from the industrial burning of coal, but then how do emissions of coal fly ash released into the lowest layers of the troposphere find their way into the stratosphere?
This is specifically about the coal fly ash https://www.ourgeoengineeringage.org/_files/ugd/811786_66d4234c75db40b491fc2a1c0b3e0dc9.pdf
Injected. This essay Origins of the ‘Climate Change’ Threat to National Security – and the Geoengineering Response provides lots of info of the history of geoengineering.
https://www.ourgeoengineeringage.org/part-6-essay
Quote out of that essay:
---- And then, as if on cue, in June 1991 Earth conducted a geoengineering experiment of her own, as Earth is wont to do every decade or so, one that would later be described as a prime example of “stratospheric aerosol geoengineering” or what the geoengineers now refer to as “the Pinatubo Option.” [27]
According to the US Geological Survey, the Philippine island of Luzon’s Mt. Pinatubo ejected 20 million tons of sulfur dioxide into the stratosphere, more than 1 cubic mile of material that rose in an ash cloud 22 miles into the air and caused global temperatures to drop from 1991 to 1993 by about 1° F (0.5° C). [28]
Geoengineers ever since have looked to the 1991 Pinatubo explosion as their inspirational lodestar, incontrovertible proof that stratospheric aerosols can cool the planet abruptly. But only for one or two years, or as long as the ejected aerosols stay aloft. Otherwise a Pinatubo-size volcano would have to erupt every other year — or planes spray more or less continuously -----
This is a good article too https://www.ourgeoengineeringage.org/_files/ugd/811786_7cceb314e05c43e9880d25af0129d7d7.pdf
Must say that i am glad that this is finally coming into focus in a much wider group of people. Thank you for writing about it Jaime Jessop and diving deeper to find out even more about it.
Geocentrics and flat earthers are rife too
One of the more documented write ups https://www.humorousmathematics.com/post/what-is-geoengineering-chemtrails-cloud-seeding-h-a-a-r-p-weather-modification
USA, 1971 https://gao.justia.com/department-of-agriculture/1972/5/cloud-seeding-activities-carried-out-in-the-united-states-under-programs-supported-by-the-federal-agencies-b-100063/B-100063-full-report.pdf
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Lpm61JKBLNSu/
Shasta County hearings on geo-engineering. The climate scam and the aerosol program could not be more inextricably linked!
I enjoy and value your work, especially in gleaning a perspective across the pond! However, I am surprised at the hand waving of a very real and admitted to action by nation’s around the world. I understand your desire to avoid the toxic ‘conspiracist’ label, but SAI is very real, and very important to your antagonists’ plans.
Spain refreshingly responded to a FOIL request, openly admitting their use of SO2 spraying for decades, and implicating 50 other partner nations they work on the program with (old news now!). https://aemetblog.es/2016/09/30/aemet-al-margen-de-las-llamadas-avionetas-anti-lluvias/
You have, of course seen Biden’s executive order, posted many times in these comments. You are, of course aware of Trey Gates involvement, funding (and now of GMO ‘squiter and malaria fame, this guy never stops, yeehaw!). Perhaps, you saw Mexico had enough of private companies (read 3 letter agency contractors from a northerly neighbor) spraying their skies and banned all stratospheric aerosol spraying? https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/green-tech/a42624183/mexico-bans-solar-geoengineering/
Are you unfamiliar with Dane Wiggington and Geoengineeringwatch? I’m 40/60 on controlled op/gatekeeper scale with him, but he has physically sampled persistent contrails and water and soil samples all over California for the last two decades. But. the best two hour investment may actually be the Shasta County hearings of a few years back. Scientists, Doctors, Pilots, a series of experts in 5 minute bursts.
Why you should take an interest in this and dig a little deeper? I noticed a few years ago studies started saying night was warming faster than day. Turns out 100% of the claimed increase in temps over the last two decades has happened at night. Daytime average temps have barely budged. There is a Wiley analysis I am struggling to find as I doze off finishing this comment, but there are many studies explaining the warming effect of trapping that radiative heat from ‘persistent contrail formation’. Since the doom model projections never pan out, do t you think the round table group had to do something?
You’re an astute mind, check out the composition of coal fly ash before you check out the samples provided by Wiggington and the scientists at Shasta. I posit we are watching flouride 2.0, and expensive Rockefeller waste product turned for a benevolent (read deadly) public good. John Brennan, as director of the CIA in 2016 was extolling its virtues for its “16x reflective capabilities versus sulfur dioxide”.
So, we have this waste, it costs billions a year to treat and store. We have this climate, it will not warm fast enough to scare the people into bugs and killing themselves. You must also know there would be other tertiary benefits to this crowd by depriving us poors of sunlight, no need to speculate further here.
Please take a stronger and longer look. You are missing a critical piece of the climate scam by ignoring the largest tool and program in their arsenal!
I am looking deeper. I'm not seeing any real, tangible, irrefutable evidence of the injection of chemical substances into the stratosphere by commercial jets operating globally. Wiggington's GeoEngineering site is a bit of a joke quite frankly. Weather modification is real but it should not be conflated with the existence of an alleged world wide conspiracy to pollute the stratosphere with toxic chemicals for the purpose of reducing or enhancing global warming (chemtrail enthusiasts seem to be a little confused as to which) and/or precipitating 'ecological collapse'.
Has anyone taken an airplane equipped with air sampling analytical equipment and measured anything in "chemtrails" ? Levels of emissions would be highest in fresh trails, and would be a unequivocal proof of shitbaggery. Funny, I have not seen anything providing such proof.
They did lake, soil and chased planes for samples here https://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/the-dimming-full-length-climate-engineering-documentary/
We need to see the actual chemical analysis of the air samples and we need to know exactly what altitude those samples were taken at. Where is that information? Geo-engineering Watch do not appear to link to it. All we have are slick youtube videos telling us that they got hold of a NOAA plane and used the air sampling lab aboard. This is not enough. We need to see the actual results of the chemical analyses performed, written up in a scientific paper.
There are many test results here, as well as the prior mentioned plane test, which the results are shown fully in the documentary. As far as asking for peer reviewed and published literature, I dunno, how many ‘climate change is a financial enslavement scam studies have we seen in journals lately?
http://globalskywatch.com/chemtrails/ubbthreads.php?ubb=postlist&Board=294&page=1
Cointelpro....
And it works to divide, discredit, and distract.
The best way to deal with it is... not to give it much attention. There's nothing wrong with addressing the questions you proposed but beyond that just realizing the narrative's purpose is to derail attention and energy from say..... I dunno..... the Vax induced iatrogenocide?
That may be so, and I have ignored the chemtrail theories for some time now, but the people promoting them are becoming more insistent and the ideas are now spreading beyond just a dedicated few. Chemtrail conspiracy theories are fast becoming mainstream in the online anti-establishment community and there is a worrying lack of critical thinking evident in those who are promoting them as real.
The problem for the chemtrail obsessive brigade is that contrails are not a recent phenomenon but were highly prevalent during the Second World War, especially over Southern England during the Battle of Britain and daylight bombing of Germany by USAAF Fortresses and Liberators from around 1943 onwards.
It is hard to imagine anyone having the time or inclination to waste their time, energy and resources on such questionable pursuit when there was a war to be won.
https://ychef.files.bbci.co.uk/1600x900/p0cvv5d2.webp
https://scx2.b-cdn.net/gfx/news/hires/2011/worldwariibo.jpg
I’m sceptical too but it seems Bill Gates is doing enough to seed the conspiracy theories.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/arielcohen/2021/01/11/bill-gates-backed-climate-solution-gains-traction-but-concerns-linger/
Oh, and you might want to educate yourself on how the spraying works. When I talked about the crown decline in trees, I am not talking about the chemical sprays doing that directly as the government did with agent orange in Vietnam. The aluminum and plastic nano particles do, in fact, reach the ground and contaminate the soil. You might want to read about how aluminum in the soil can prevent trees from absorbing water and, thus, have the same effect as a drought has on the trees.
There's been severe devastation in US and Canadian forest due to bark beetle infestation.
Some say that bark beetles have always been with us. They say that now the compromised trees cannot survive the beetles' infestations and become dried out tinder because of drought because they can't absorb water. The biggest fire in NM (350,000 acres) was started by a prescribed burn by the US Forest Service during the windiest time of the year. Orders from US Forest Service in D.C. Forest Service Employees for Environmental Ethics is a good group to consult about these issues. They are not on the Greta Thunberg train. Almost nothing is black and white and simple, unfortunately.
Can't speak for bark beattles in Canada. In the US it is primarily caused by fire suppression leading to much thicker and higher undergrowth, exasperating mature trees water shortage in times of drought.
I have never seen an engineering quality study on how contrails in California could have a major impact on massive weather systems formed over millions of square miles of the pacific, thousands of miles away, that, in the end, deliver very predictable amounts of percipitaion.
The bark beetles in New Mexico were particularly bad in the foothills that have not been fire-prone. And if you see the areas where the bark beetles attacked the pinons and junipers, you will not see much in the way of undergrowth.
Contrails are not the problem. There is a difference between contrails and deliberate spraying of chemicals. The chem trails are world wide and are over the oceans. Check this out, please. But believe whatever you want.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/prof-michel-chossudovsky-manipulating-weather-part-military-arsenal-should-part-climate-discussion/5793885?fbclid=IwAR0m4Rvo6l45MS7duSZ9Th8a9YLmzfE2Pn0PbAiLG48ugVt-dtQ9HB-tsxg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Popeye
Ground fires, conducted regularly, burn off forest detritus before it has time to reach levels of forest litter capable of producing high temperatures.
Infrequent ground fires, burning years of accumulated forest litter and deadfall reach high temperatures that can kill adult trees and kill much of the soil life, living or dormant. When fire has been absurdly suppressed for over 100 years and entire communities are wiped out These dangerous ground fires often reach into and ignite tree crowns. Resulting fire driven wind storms turn every pile of burning matter into high temperature furnaces.
The native americans of the eastern states of the US thought controlled seasonal burning a good idea , according to a Penn State researcher :
-“Eastern forests shaped more by Native Americans’ burning than climate change”-
https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2019-05/ps-\efs052119.php
Studies show about a fifty percent reduction in beetle damage from healthy forests compared to overgrown forests.
This is true throughut the Americas.
Global droughts have not increased. The climate emergency is MIAhttps://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/04/25/wheres-the-emergency/
I talked about weather anomalies. I am not talking about climate change or lack thereof.
I've talked to the director of Forest Service Employees for Environmental Ethics. They have been truly horrified by the prescribed burns in New Mexico. One of them the Cerro Grande fire was impinging on the Los Alamos National Laboratory storage units. The bomb factory. I don't have to tell you what their storage units might contain. Look for Concerned Citizens for Nuclear Safety to find out. The most recent in 2022 burned 350,000 acres of gorgeous forest and resulted in the spraying of fire retardant and other chemicals onto the burn. This washed down with subsequent storms(!) into the water supplies and soil rendering the local farmers who had farmed these areas for 400 years unable to plant or raise viable crops. They are slowly recovering. The FSEEE folks say that it is not reasonable to expect that what works well in Eastern and Southeastern forests will work in dry (formerly about 10 inches of rain per year in the areas I speak about) forests with different soil compositions in the Southwest. FSEEE publishes a magazine that gives me some hope. They were instrumental in having the Forest Service people in D.C. call a moratorium on prescribed burns especially during the extreme windy time when they are usually set. Unfortunately, the forest service is back to prescribing burns. You might want to look at some of what FSEEE publishes. They're a very reasonable group.
of course the beetles have been with us. the question is what has turned them into the feeding frenzy that's decimating the forests. Climate Change fanatics says it's climate change. But I agree with you, it's complex, and we probably don't know and maybe will not know the answer.
Regarding the fires, we know that at least 84% of wildfires are human caused. What's going on in Canada seems very suspicious: A couple dozen wildfires all started the same day in Quebec. The day was sunny and clear, no lightning, so they were obviously human caused. And because there were so many in one day, the conclusion I come to is it was planned by a group of people.
pima, it has been studied, decades of fire suppression makes insect harms far worse in overgrown forests.
I am embarrassed to say I don't know how to load my photos onto your substack, but if you give me your email address, I can send them. However, I am MAD, MAD, INSANE. I did use critical thinking to question the narrative on covid and I have not had any shots. Lost "friends" because of my stance. Now I am losing "friends" because of my stance on chem trails.
I am not sure why you are so adamant about not investigating the possibility of chemical spraying because, after all, you do reject global climate change and covid. I am not sure how you can reject weather anomalies such as snow in Los Angeles, tornadoes on the top of mountains in Montana, monsoon season changing from July and August to April, May, and June in New Mexico. There are many more anomalies from all over the world. I do not say they are a result of climate change. I observe and research and come up with the idea that something is happening and I suspect that climate mitigation is and has been for decades the cause of such anomalies.
Perhaps you have a better, more satisfactory answer.
Then there is this announcement from Biden https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/white-house/white-house-reflect-sunlight-climate-change. They pretend they aren't already implementing SRM and SAI.
Then there is this from global research. https://www.globalresearch.ca/prof-michel-chossudovsky-manipulating-weather-part-military-arsenal-should-part-climate-discussion/5793885?fbclid=IwAR0m4Rvo6l45MS7duSZ9Th8a9YLmzfE2Pn0PbAiLG48ugVt-dtQ9HB-tsxg
Then there is this where they pretend not to already have implemented it. https://www.forbes.com/sites/arielcohen/2021/01/11/bill-gates-backed-climate-solution-gains-traction-but-concerns-linger/?sh=2aee92d3793
What I don't understand is that you, as a critical thinker, dismiss the possibility of chem trails without wanting to investigate. You seem to accept all the establishment, authoritarian dictates that this is conspiracy theory. How did you come to your conclusions regarding covid and climate change? Just wondering.
Unusual weather is normal, and there has not been an increase of it. Snow in LA always happens, every so often. This years calif snow was the result of massive air pressure systems and jet stream flow over millions of sq miles of ocean, leading to highly predictable reuslts 10 days later.
I do not dismiss chem trails, and a possible minor effect on weather, but that is all they are capable of.
I noticed in our local propaganda rag several years ago before I cancelled my subscription that the jet stream had changed. NM at that time was getting a lot more rain than usual and California was in unusually (operative word) serious drought. At that time I knew nothing about the machinations of chemical spraying or HAARP. Just thought it was weird that the jet stream had changed. I haven't looked lately, but I buy into everything you say haha.
The jet streams have always gone through these patterns.
Are you a meteorologist? Just wondering.
Nope, just been reading for 20 plus years, Reading hundreds of peer review papers, articles and debates by meterologists, and disparate experts. (hundreds of hours of reading both sides) Climate is extremely chaotic, and other then modest local effects, there is likely very little they could do, and if they were actually playing with the enegy levels needed, (they are not) the effects could easily, and likely would run in completely unanticiapated directions.
Although I read and research, I am not a meteorologist. However just for you information, and I will leave it at that, I was a data analyst in the meteorology division at Los Alamos National Lab, the bomb factory. I am aware of what can and cannot be done.
Suannee,
I am not dismissing the possibility of chemtrails whilst refusing to investigate. I have done some basic research and I find I am more persuaded by the 'contrail' explanation of these aircraft trails than by the deliberate chemical spraying explanations. I also find that many of the claims made by chemtrail advocates are inconsistent and don't stand up to close scrutiny. But I'm now going to look a lot closer at the whole issue and start writing about it on this Substack because as I say, the chemtrail issue is starting to become very pervasive and for that reason it should be looked into a lot more closely.
If you email me through Substack initially, I'll then reply and then you can send me photos directly to my private email. It's just that I've been getting a lot of spam recently and don't want to publish my actual email address just in case. Thanks.
I live in a rural area, not under any flight paths. Yet, see parallel lines across the sky which widen and turn the sky a murky, milky overcast. Is to cut out solar radiation the goal of govt. supported geoengineering? I have solar panels; it's winter downunder.
contrails are a function of the moisture content of the upper atmosphere. On days when the upper atmosphere is very dry, contrails will disappear almost immediately. If the upper atmosphere has more moisture, contrails will persist longer. Their duration is a function of the humidity of the air at 35,000 feet where the jets are flying. So on some days you look up and see NO contrails and then a few days later, the sky has contrails crisscrossing all over the place, so you think, Aha! There! See they are spraying today. No, the upper atmosphere has high humidity today. Remember, at any given point in time there are hundreds of commercial jets in US airspace, so when it's humid up there, you're going to see contrails. Doesn't mean they are NOT spraying something somewhere. But using contrails as proof is a red herring.
I didn't state the obvious: When jet fuel burns, you get CO2 and H2O. It's the H2o precipitating out as water or ice that makes the contrail, just as water vapor in the atmosphere forms fog, clouds, or ice crystals when it encounters a cold air mass.
You don’t even need products of combustion or altitude. Here is a clip showing the phenomena near the ground, you can even see how they fill the chem trail tanks before takeoff. 😉
https://youtu.be/FCSYtQqgCsU
Yes, that is certainly very natural.
Scientific illiteracy and superstition are not limited to the center and left. Alas.
This is what I've been arguing for a while now, but with little success. Why let facts get in the way of a good conspiracy theory?
https://jaimejessop.substack.com/p/where-have-all-the-chemtrails-gone
OK. I will get my album together and be in touch.
Trouble is that most government actions these days are so malevolent it seems natural ro assume the worst.
Absolutely assume the worst. But take time to really investigate whether your assumptions fit the facts.
...and claiming the worst in the wrong area, only distracts from the definite very real issues.
I wrote this in my about post on my substacke,
"...when one is taking a contrary to the narrative position, one is at a disadvantage based on the inescapable reality that every other possible perspective is loaded into the skeptics position, thus your view, no matter how rational, is part of the everything else “denier” camp. You deny GHGs have any possible warming. You deny viruses are real. You are a Moon landing denier, and a “conspiracy theorist”. You are lumped with “them” and often effectively marginalized.
This is why I do not address things like chem-trails, or weather modifications, or the position that there is no greenhouse effect, or the possible US cause of 911, or the “viruses are not real” position. They may, or may not be supportable, but they are in a losing position, (a minority even within the skeptics camp) and often a distracting position from the main issues affecting policy and destroying nations and lives. So, as I have not committed the time and effort required to have a position on those rare views, I leave them be. (“Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.”)
That is why I wrote this below article on Global Warming, to, as articulately as I am able, tackle the issue from every important policy affecting perspective. Take a look, and you will see that the linked article is a far more effective red pill then climate change via contrails. Also I have noticed that many contrail advocates, accept that extreme climate is on a large upswing, and this is simply not true as the linked article proves...https://anderdaa7.substack.com/p/global-warming?utm_source=substack&utm_campaign=post_embed&utm_medium=web