UK Winter And Early Spring 2023/24: Is The Rainfall Geoengineered And Were The Ubiquitous Grey Clouds Sprayed There?
It’s a reasonable question, because lots of people are saying they’ve ‘never seen anything like it’ and the ‘evidence’ for nefarious geoengineering activities is piling up:
The Graun article in question says this:
Scientists must work urgently on predicting the effects of climate geoengineering, the chief of the US atmospheric science agency has said, as the technology is likely to be needed, at least in part.
Richard Spinrad, administrator of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), said the government-backed body was estimating the effects of some of the likely techniques for geoengineering, including those involving the oceans.
“My own belief is that we need to get a better understanding of what the impacts are,” he said. “I suspect some aspects of geoengineering are going to be an important component of the solution to reducing global warming, and all of the impacts of global climate change, like ocean acidification.”
Potential geoengineering techniques include seeding the oceans with iron to absorb more carbon dioxide, or spraying water from the oceans into low-level clouds to reflect some of the sun’s radiation.
Spinrad said understanding the potential impact of geoengineering on the oceans was vital. “If we were to undertake an effort in some things like iron fertilisation [of the oceans], what are the consequence to the ecosystem of doing that? [Also important is] building good predictive models … and supporting decision-makers,” he said.
It’s talking about the need to understand what the effects of possible future geoengineering activities to mitigate ‘global boiling’ might be. Don’t get me wrong: psychopathic megalomaniacs like Gates and others are funding dangerous, unpredictable geoengineering as the ‘final solution’ to a non-existent climate crisis and they have been doing small scale experiments of dubious legality, but this does not translate to ‘blowing the lid off’ a coverup involving an ongoing nefarious global conspiracy to spray our skies with poisonous/climate changing/weather modifying chemicals. To me, that seems pretty obvious. I am becoming increasingly concerned that these nutters will be given the go-ahead soon for larger scale operations because of the supposed ‘urgency’ of addressing climate change. That would be extremely reckless. But we have to keep to the facts and keep a level head.
I find myself in the unenviable position of agreeing with a lot of the geoengineering crowd who say that man-made climate change is a nothingburger, yet strongly disagreeing with their assertions that our weather and climate are changing because of nefarious ongoing geoengineering projects. Personally, I want to make natural weather and climate change great again because I consider whatever puny efforts (intentional or otherwise) humanity might come up with to alter our planet’s vast, complex ocean-atmosphere system, energy from the Sun (and perhaps earth’s interior), astronomical alignments and gravitational interactions with the Moon and other planets plus internal atmospheric/oceanic variability totally dominate the climate and weather patterns on this planet. It seems to be a curious feature of the human psyche that it must put itself at the centre of events - all events. Anthropocentrism I think they call it. Hence the geoengineering crowd who reject the theory of dominant greenhouse gas man-made climate change nevertheless embrace the alternative theory of intentionally geoengineered climate change and weather modification. For example, GB News insist on keep interviewing the idiotic doomster “senior meteorologist” Jim Dale, so he can lie bare-faced about the British weather. I don’t know, maybe that’s to keep Ofgem happy, because they seem to be perfectly OK with this sort of misinformation produced by the channel, but not anti-establishment ‘misinformation’ as formerly proffered by Mark Steyn.
But it’s this reply which exemplifies what I’m on about:
Here’s another post by Emma:
It’s odd. On the one hand, Emma claims that our “cows and cars” are doing nothing to change the climate and that the climate has always changed naturally and always will, then she flips to claiming that Haarp (which is only capable of generating a tiny amount of energy in relation to the truly vast amounts of solar, volcanic and gravitational potential energy which drives the ocean-atmosphere system) and geoengineering can do what man-made greenhouse gases can’t! That doesn’t make sense.
So anyway, I thought I would look in more detail at this claim that our depressingly grey skies and seemingly endless rain this winter just gone and now continuing into early spring are ‘not natural’. To do that, you need to look at the past record to see if the current situation is unprecedented. Spoiler: it’s not.
Was the UK winter exceptionally dull and cloudy?
No, there have been many even cloudier winters since 1910. In fact, the decisive trend since 1910 has been for winters generally to be sunnier and there has been no trend since about 2008.
Was December 2023 exceptionally cloudy?
Yes, but not unprecedentedly cloudy. I count 9 December months since 1910 which have been as dull and cloudy or even duller than 2023.
Was January 2024 exceptionally dull?
No, it was in fact quite a sunny month.
Was February exceptionally cloudy in the UK?
It was very dull, but many February months since 1910 have been even more lacking in sunshine hours.
Case closed. Winter 2023/24 was not exceptionally cloudy and none of the individual months was unprecedentedly lacking in sunshine. If they’re spraying these clouds, then they’re not doing a very good job of it?
Ah yes, but are they seeding the clouds with aerosols so that they produce more rain. We know this can be done, locally, with varying levels of claimed success.
Was Winter 2023/24 exceptionally wet?
Yes, it was very wet, but 7 years since 1840 have been wetter or as wet. It is true to say that since 1960, UK winters have become significantly wetter, the rainiest winter occurring in 2013/14, when there was widespread flooding. Despite claims in the media that it was climate change which caused this record wet winter a decade ago, the Met Office actually says:
Unusual conditions in the tropics and stratosphere gave rise to the very wet winter of 2013-14, in which there was damaging flooding in many parts of England.
Climate change made a secondary contribution by increasing the moisture holding capacity of the atmosphere.
The winter of 2013-14 will be remembered for many years for remarkably widespread and persistent flooding that affected many parts of England, including the low-lying Somerset moors and the Thames Valley.
So according to the Met Office, it was not climate change which caused the record wet winter in 2013/14, it was “unusual conditions in the tropics and stratosphere” mainly. As far as I am aware, there has been no evidence in the interim to suggest that those unusual conditions were geoengineered back then and there is certainly not much in the way of hard evidence to suggest that our not so wet winter of 2023/24 was similarly geoengineered and not the result of natural weather variability.
Was any winter month in 2023/24 unprecedentedly wet?
No, the wettest month was December and even that was not highly unusual.
Nine December months since 1840 have seen equal or greater rainfall.
Facts matter and the facts point firmly to there being nothing unusual or unprecedented about our current miserable and very depressing British weather, which we Brits have endured for generations, off and on. We need a 1976 summer!
There wouldn't be UN resolutions against geo-engineering if it didn't exist... It goes back to Vietnam and rainfall on the Ho-Chi-Minh trail... Welcome to the party.
Thanks Jaime - great summary again