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JamesDuff's avatar

“ Almost impossible without climate crisis” really? Made 100 times worse a once in a 40,000 year event really.” Really you can trust these numbers because the scientist threw spaghetti on the wall and pulled numbers scientifically with pin point accuracy. The question is who funds this bull shit and I guess they just want to bamboozle us with their incredible accuracy.

I can’t see the graphs on my phone but the words are enough to tell me … when I was a kid we would exaggerate stories. It may not be lying but it’s bending the truth.

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Paul Dennis's avatar

It is interesting that you should post on this study immediately following your report of the Koutsoyiannis paper on the Greek hydro meteorological records. Koutsoyiannis has published a lot of work on deterministic versus stochastic modelling of the climate. In 2010 he published a paper - A comparison of local and aggregated climate model outputs with observed data in the Hydrological Science Journal. His conclusions on the ability of deterministic models such as GCM’s to capture the variability of climate at local and regional scales over time periods ranging from times between monthly to climatic scales (30 years) is very poor. They lack any information on the stochastic nature of weather and climate events. He concludes “Do we have something better than GCMs when it comes to establishing policies for the future? Our answer is yes: we have stochastic approaches, and what is needed is a paradigm shift. We need to recognize the fact that the uncertainty is intrinsic, and shift our attention from reducing the uncertainty towards quantifying the uncertainty....” Of course, in the case of the Spanish heatwave (a 3 day event) we have no empirical data that can relate the magnitude of the event to the naturally occurring frequency of such events and thus lack information on the uncertainty that can be attributed to stochastic processes. The WWA study is just yet another example of models masquerading as reality.

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