That’s what it feels like to me: shining a light on tiny areas of a huge festering swamp of antiscientific/pseudoscientific sentiment. You’ve got the millenarian Net Zero/climate crisis nutters, the directed energy weapon nutters, the chemtrail conspiracists (who claim that the chem-trailers are having a day off every time the skies are blue) and now the pandemic deniers, GOF deniers and nihilistic ‘viruses don’t exist’ mob. What I’m seeing is an emergent pattern of consistent science denial, dismissal of basic facts and a worrying tendency for these groups to overlap considerably, or to use a more woke term, become intersectional.
I’m just going to focus my puny flashlight beam on one particular area of the swamp here: virus denialism.
Pierre Kory recently wrote a response to Martin Neil, Jonathan Engler and Jessica Hockett concerning their claim that ‘spikeopathy’ does not explain the novel symptoms associated with COVID-19, plus further claims by Nick Hudson and others that no novel Coronavirus ever existed, there was no identifiable contagious pandemic of a novel, sometimes fatal disease and that ‘Gain of Function is a myth’.
Martin, Jonathan and Jessica wrote a substack in response to that response and I left a comment as follows:
It wasn’t long before ‘Allen’ came onto the thread to let me know that Kory wasn’t an expert in anything and that he was basically faking it:
Called out on this, he immediately denied it of course.
This unproductive exchange rolled on:
and on:
and on:
and on:
The arrogance is astounding: Kory, Cole, Marik, Kirsch, RFK, Malone, Rose etc. are all wrong and ‘Allen’ and his buddies are correct. Allen, as you can see, is immune to reasoned criticism of his views.
I got into a similar exchange with a similar fanatic (though somewhat less polite) on this recent Substack by Jessica Rose:
Jessica introduces the latest ‘smoking gun’ revelations re. DEFUSE and says, in summary:
To summarize, dangerous pathogens are being made and played with, gene therapy technology is being normalized, good safety studies (by any sane person’s definition) for the modified mRNA-LNP technologies have been by-passed and this extends into the foreseeable future. We must stop globalization of all things at all cost, and when the petrol-dollar collapses, for GOD’S SAKE, do not run to the arms of the CBDC assholes.
This is the ‘smoking gun’ which proves beyond all reasonable doubt that Ecohealth Alliance created the SARS-CoV-2 virus in a lab, which the virus deniers and GOF dismissers would have us believe is a smoke screen, not a gun.
Before I provide you with the rantings of yet another ‘viruses don’t exist’ cultist I would just like to point out an excellent tweet (my bold) by Robin Monotti on ‘X’ concerning these people:
TO THE "VIRUS/NO VIRUS/PANDEMIC/NO PANDEMIC" THEORISTS: It really does NOT matter to anyone but a few isolated scientific nerds and other borderline delusional schizophrenics who have placed all their emotional stakes on nothing existing other than what neatly fits their self constructed hyper-simplistic models of a very complex world and reality, if you agree with Robert Malone/me or Dennis Rancourt on the epidemiological textbook definitions of "virus" & "pandemic". It DOES matter a lot to Big Pharma, globalists, WEF, war and CBDC pushers to see the people in the Freedom Movement fight each other instead of fighting them. Manoeuvring in the dark to attack key scientific leaders of the freedom movement, and whether you like it or not Robert Malone is one of the most credentialled and influential scientific figures of the Freedom Movement, is information warfare against the Freedom Movement as a whole. This needs to be both called out and stopped. It is a mass formation in itself. Its origin may not be benign. Have you thought about that? I really don't care if you agree with me on scientific details. That is why I spend large periods of time not addressing your scientific claims and once in several months I address everything like this: not personally. Because it makes no difference to me what you think of my scientific beliefs, and I could not care less about yours. That stage is long past. We all know we were manipulated by fear-mongering propaganda, fake solutions, and harmful injections. What I care about is that we all fight the right people. The people who did this to us, our family members, our communities, our countries, our world. Your time and focus on attacking people would be much better spent attacking Bill Gates, Tedros, the WEF, GAVI, Moderna, Pfizer, DARPA, EcoHealth Alliance, Whitty, Farrar etc. instead. THINK in whose interests your energies are going towards, and whether perhaps people in your group are being manipulated by personal ambition instead of team play. It is these personally ambitious people who tend use technology like podcasts, twitter/X spaces, group tagging in posts, to walk all over everyone else who has different views to them, ganging people up against other people's views and opinions, manipulating their words, and so on. This then creates a show for which other people buy the ticket, and soon enough the freedom movement becomes a spin-off of a Jerry Springer show where people spend all their time in-fighting instead of out-fighting the globalist fraudulent pharma and digital ID, data stealing gene modifying injection pushers and other warmongers. Don't become part of that. Don't become the monster that you claim to be fightingn by fighting us instead of them. You may be used by a group psychology you are not even aware of, whether or not bad actors are consciously involved or not, they soon will be your allies if you continue like this, and you may not be able to spot them being so caught up in your ego battling everybody else. Just leave Robert Malone alone, excuse the pun, and leave anybody else who is doing a great service for freedom alone too. Stop attacking our most influential figures because some mate of yours doesnt like them, nobody claimed perfection, or purity.
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I think that says it all, except for the fact that these anti-science, factually challenged zealots inhabit the entire sceptic space, including climate change, weather modification, Net Zero etc., all issues which the globalists are exploiting in order to impoverish us, enslave us and/or drastically reduce our numbers. I don’t know whether it is intentional/organised divide and rule tactics or just some mass formation itself, as Robin suggests (as I too suggested when I said over a year ago that criticism of Malone and his embrace of Desmet’s theory was becoming a ‘mass formation psychosis psychosis’ in itself!). What I do know is that it is profondly irrational and unscientific, even anti-scientific and the current wholesale rejection of large chunks of science, presumably on the basis that we have been demonstrably conned by establishment pseudoscience, is just as dangerous as the activities of the establishment con merchants themselves, perhaps more so. Here is an example of an actual ‘scientist’ denying actual science and instead promoting her own pseudoscientific pet theory, dismissing all those who present credible, rational arguments in opposition to her pet theory as ‘deniers’:
This ‘global warming causes extreme cold weather’ bullshit has been going on for years; the zealots just won’t give up on it, even though the hypothesis has come in for some heavy scientific criticism and is not even worthy of progressing to the status of a ‘scientific theory’. But there are some among us, supposedly on ‘our side’, who still embrace the global warming doctrine, but who also think that chemtrails/weather modification are real and viruses are not.
Ideology is the driving force behind this anti-science cult and the toolkit it employs is misinformation, diversion, dismissal of facts, insults, ad hominem attacks, arrogance, and condescension. When all that doesn’t work, they go straight to censorship. My latest spat with an online commenter on Jessica Rose’s post above amply demonstrates the former:
And on it went. They definitely don’t like (or expect) to be called out on their BS online. Well that’s what I do and that’s what I will continue to do. Because details matter. Facts matter. Data matters. Science matters. When those things cease to matter, we start living in the Dark Ages again. We need the sun to rise on the Anti-science Swamp; then I won’t need my torch anymore.
Since my first days on progressive websites and a few mainstream ones (when comments were allowed), I was always able to see the disruptors in the comments whenever certain trigger words/subjects were broached. Always the same pattern. Very good at disrupting threads or posting insane/vile crap so normies move on and the rest waste their time on some form of troll. Obviously much later it was disclosed that corporate and gvt actors, employees and activists were paid to disrupt. We have the 77th recently. We have countless examples of 'agitators' through the ages.
I also saw the fanatics who believed everything was caused by their obsession, portrayed beautifully by the hordes of "Tories/Brexit caused this" zombies of recent years where no feat is beyond their bête noire. But I saw it also with climate cos totally RWP was caused by Roman tin smelting and forest clearance or that the Tokhu earthquake was climate change!
We also know that behind ever plot to kill people by means of terror, there's usually a intelligence agent from somewhere stoking the hate and/or supplying the means. Not new by any means but it's changed a wee bit from the machinations of the court of old. You could easily see Lewandowsky in Medieval court.
What I'm really trying to say is online has been 'nudged' for quite some time and the nudging has only got more nefarious and sophisticated as time progressess. It's no conspiracy theory, It's a global problem with every country pretty much engaged in it against their own people and their adversaries at home and abroad with legions willing to fall behind whatever the message is rather than rational open discussion where the clear intent is to learn.
I trust very few online for that reason. Some of these people could be fantastics, disruptors, trolls or agents or idiots. As a very old saying goes 'Do not give what is holy to dogs; and do not throw your pearls before swine, or they will trample them under foot and turn and maul you.'
Damn, you just keep impressing more with your fortitude and prudent eye for truth.
I think the major issue that is not understood or discussed is the category of Exosomes in general.