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Douglas Brodie's avatar

I don’t buy this study. The historical multivariate index going back to 1950 indicates that the El Nino which followed the 1974-5 double La Nina was nothing special: https://psl.noaa.gov/enso/mei.old/.

Similarly, the current multivariate index from 1980 indicates that the El Nino which followed the 2022-3 extended La Nina was a relatively puny event: https://psl.noaa.gov/enso/mei/.

By putting out this unconvincing hypothesis they have unwittingly confirmed that the sudden volcanic eruption of a massive quantity of water vapour high into the atmosphere looks just like an ordinary El Nino, also caused by water vapour from evaporation of warm Pacific waters, except that the 2023 warming spike which followed the Hunga Tonga eruption was unprecedentedly massive. They also dodge the question of why this warming spike is still persisting after over a year, unlike all the other El Ninos in modern measurements which fell away as quickly as they arrived: https://www.drroyspencer.com/wp-content/uploads/UAH_LT_1979_thru_August_2024_v6_20x9-scaled.jpg.

At least they don’t claim the massive 2023 warming spike was due to man-made CO2 as many climate propagandists have pretended, e.g. UN chief Guterres and his “global boiling”.

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jim peden's avatar

I don't think it's worth getting het up by this.

They're saying that the models can explain warming spikes without anthropogenic forcing. They'll maybe find in the future that their models can predict warming itself without anthropogenic forcing.

Just give them time.

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